Fram Ultra Users - question

[JC1]

Originally Posted by ChrisD46
If you are doing no more than a 5K mile OCI in a well maintained engine using synthetic oil - then I see no reason why you can't use an Ultra for two OCI's leaving the oil filter alone between oil changes .


I agree, however there are many people that would never do that, it's too far out of their comfort zone.

I guess if oil filters were 4 times the price they are today and proven that they would last that long, People may change their minds.

Personally now I'm using the Ultra for at least 2 OCI. On my wife's civic I'll stretch it out to 3 or 4 OCI, engine is spotless inside.

 

[mcwilly]

I guess I'm one of the few that removes and drains the filter between changes.

It is right next to the oil pan on the echo and I find there are a few good seconds of oil pouring out of the oil filter mount housing along with the oil in the filter.

I always think after the fact that I should measure the oil contained in the filter/mount housing.

Next time I shall!

Still insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but I enjoy doing it.

 

[anndel]

When removing a can-type filter, I use my hand first. I it can't be removed by hand, I use a large Channellock, crushing the can while loosening it. I just hand tighten the new filter to about 1/2 a turn.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I hand-tighten - then use a filter wrench for another 1/4 turn. Always requires a filter wrench to remove.... no big deal.
Whatever it takes (preventative medicine) to avoid an occasional black spot on the driveway during the cold winter - caused by only hand-tightening.

If hand-tightening works for many - that's great. Not my cup of tea.

 

[DuckRyder]

I don't understand why we do this question every 2-3 months...

Of all the manufacturers who specify FCI @ OCIx2 if there is one who says to take the filter off drain it and reinstall it, I'd love to see that because I think there is not one.

So no, I don't take them off and drain them when I use them twice.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

I remove old (but still good) filter - watch the oil lines above the filter remove even more old oil - tip the old filter upside down and remove the contents - wipe off the gasket housing on the engine - wipe off the nitrile gasket on the old filter - apply new oil to the old filter gasket - then reinstall.

Your wallet thanks you and so does your nearest landfill. My step-by-step takes the same amount of time it takes someone to walk down the Walmart oil aisle after putting the five quart jug in the basket - find a new filter - then put it in the basket to purchase it - then put it inside your home or garage for storage.... later installation.

Your landfill now thanks you for a 2nd time, for you are no longer placing the Walmart grocery bag that the new filter came in - inside the landfill.
Your landfill is thanking you a 3rd time, for not putting the filter cardboard box in that same landfill.

 

[Patman]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I hand-tighten - then use a filter wrench for another 1/4 turn. Always requires a filter wrench to remove.... no big deal.
Whatever it takes (preventative medicine) to avoid an occasional black spot on the driveway during the cold winter - caused by only hand-tightening.

If hand-tightening works for many - that's great. Not my cup of tea.


I have always hand tightened my filters, pretty much as tight as I can go by hand, and have never once had a leak. When I remove those filters at the end of the OCI, they aren't loose at all, it takes a filter cap wrench to remove them, I can't remove them easily by hand. So once it's gone through a few heat cycles I think it sort of "tightens itself" up a little further. I'd be worried about giving it that little bit "extra" when installing it, that it wouldn't come off without a fight later on (like often happens when I buy a new car and do that first oil change, as most factories seem to really muscle that oil filter on tight)

 

[WellOiled]

I follow the turning spec. If I can't get the 3/4 turn by hand, I use a cup wrench to snug it up. I have never had one leak or loosen.

 

[JeffKeryk]

Only time I ever saw an oil filter leak is when it was the wrong one.

 

[WellOiled]

Originally Posted by JeffKeryk
Only time I ever saw an oil filter leak is when it was the wrong one.

Once upon a time, I managed to spin on the new filter with the old gasket still on the filter mount. It leaked. I now make sure where that old gasket is!!!

 

[Malo83]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I remove old (but still good) filter - watch the oil lines above the filter remove even more old oil - tip the old filter upside down and remove the contents - wipe off the gasket housing on the engine - wipe off the nitrile gasket on the old filter - apply new oil to the old filter gasket - then reinstall.

Your wallet thanks you and so does your nearest landfill. My step-by-step takes the same amount of time it takes someone to walk down the Walmart oil aisle after putting the five quart jug in the basket - find a new filter - then put it in the basket to purchase it - then put it inside your home or garage for storage.... later installation.

Your landfill now thanks you for a 2nd time, for you are no longer placing the Walmart grocery bag that the new filter came in - inside the landfill.
Your landfill is thanking you a 3rd time, for not putting the filter cardboard box in that same landfill.

Never heard a word from any landfill or my wallet for that matter, new filter every oil change

 

[CR94]

It's easy to dump most of the old oil from my cartridge filter housing without even touching the filter, so why not? That seems a reasonable compromise between the extremes of wasting a good slightly used filter vs. polluting the new oil with more old oil than necessary.

 

[bullwinkle]

Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
I remove old (but still good) filter - watch the oil lines above the filter remove even more old oil - tip the old filter upside down and remove the contents - wipe off the gasket housing on the engine - wipe off the nitrile gasket on the old filter - apply new oil to the old filter gasket - then reinstall.

Your wallet thanks you and so does your nearest landfill. My step-by-step takes the same amount of time it takes someone to walk down the Walmart oil aisle after putting the five quart jug in the basket - find a new filter - then put it in the basket to purchase it - then put it inside your home or garage for storage.... later installation.

Your landfill now thanks you for a 2nd time, for you are no longer placing the Walmart grocery bag that the new filter came in - inside the landfill.
Your landfill is thanking you a 3rd time, for not putting the filter cardboard box in that same landfill.
Lets see-I don't take off the old Ultra (if it is still new enough to keep going), and when I do-the cardboard box goes in the recycling, the filter gets cut open to check for issues, the media gets burned as a firestarter, the can & remaining metal that doesn't burn goes to the scrap pile, the cloth bag gets reused or the plastic bag goes back for recycling. Not much going to the landfill in that scenario, I don't even throw away the ashes from the wood stove!