Fram Titanium FS10575 C&P

[Zee09]

Wavy pleats don't do anything but "look bad". Some people are so hung up on wavy pleats now that they would use a filter that's total garbage efficiency if it has laser straight pleats after use. That's an indication that looks matter more than function or performance, and they don't really understand the purpose of filtration. Whatever floats their boat, I could care less what people buy and use. But it's kind of ridiculous when people base a filter's "quality" and functionality on if it has wavy pleats or not.

People have been pointing out and talking about wavy filter pleats ever since I've been here, but when the Ultra went to the new media and wavy pleats were seen all the "wavy pleats craziness" started. Yet before that, nobody really cared, and seemed to understand that wavy pleats happens to all kinds of oil filters regardless of the brand and doesn't cause any real issues.

Can you repeat this?
I still don't get it..

 

[KCJeep]

And this here folks is why the Ricer aftermarket parts market exist.

Maybe oil filters manufacturers should focus more on this market segment, who cares about performance just make it look good and beefy so it screams performance at first glance!
(psst. its the purolator boss)

I see what you did there.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Can you repeat this?
I still don't get it..

It might have to be repeated 10 or 12 more times for some to get it.

 

[ZeeOSix]

And this here folks is why the Ricer aftermarket parts market exist.

Maybe oil filters manufacturers should focus more on this market segment, who cares about performance just make it look good and beefy so it screams performance at first glance!
(psst. its the purolator boss)

That's what it's boiling down too. Pretty soon, nobody will even know what a micron is.

 

[Zee09]

That's what it's boiling down too. Pretty soon, nobody will even know what a micron is.

Duh dude..Micron sells computer stuff.

 

[Mewbs]

People have been pointing out and talking about wavy filter pleats ever since I've been here, but when the Ultra went to the new media and wavy pleats were seen all the "wavy pleats craziness" started. Yet before that, nobody really cared, and seemed to understand that wavy pleats happens to all kinds of oil filters regardless of the brand and doesn't cause any real issues.

Honestly if I was a long time Ultra user, I would have been upset as well discovering the media change to wire backed synthetic to thin bonded synthetic spray over cellulose synthetic blend backing. Its customer perception, which is why the cheapening has been a common complaint here.

For the record I did run one of the new gen Ultras but not long enough to really judge the pleating uniformity and visual integrity. Pretty sure it did its job well even its not the same as the former generation.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Duh dude..Micron sells computer stuff.

Made some nice keyboards at one time.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Honestly if I was a long time Ultra user, I would have been upset as well discovering the media change to wire backed synthetic to thin bonded synthetic spray over cellulose synthetic blend backing. Its customer perception, which is why the cheapening has been a common complaint here.

So much love for the OG Ultra that the change really caused a lot of rage and sadness it seems. Crazy stuff ... life goes on just like when Purolators started tearing and people went off on the search for good replacements at that time for a new go-to filter. Ultra addicts can always step-up to the Endurance if they want what they had with the OG Ultra. Fram still shows the same performance specs for the new Ultra media, and I personally don't have any reason to not believe them. Wavy pleats don't impact that performance. Read more of the magazine besides just looking at the centerfold pictures.

 

[Mewbs]

That's what it's boiling down too. Pretty soon, nobody will even know what a micron is.

Sadly thats what the marketing department is for really.

99% Dirt Removal Powah!

So much love for the OG Ultra that the change really caused a lot of rage and sadness it seems. Crazy stuff ... life goes on just like when Purolators started tearing and people went off on the search for good replacement at that time their for a new go-to filter. Ultra addicts can always step-up to the Endurance if they want what they had with the OG Ultra. Fram still shows the same performance specs for the new Ultra media, and I personally don't have any reason to not believe them. Wavy pleats don't impact that performance. Read more of the magazine besides just looking at the centerfold pictures.

I'm actually looking forward to having fun vetting some Donaldsons and Fleetguards filters someday e.g. the virgin cut open samples posted here a few weeks/months back. Probably because they're meant for the heavy duty market and not passenger vehicles haha.

Honestly oil filters are pretty interesting topic because nobody outside really talks about them from a detailed standpoint lol.
Like when car enthusiast talks about cars, its always about racing, engine tuning, performance mods, cosmetic mods. But really nobody talks about reliability mods such as better filtration & oil analysis, which is almost exclusively an industry equipment sector & fleet management topic for the most part.

 

[fantastic]

Guess you missed post #24 above.

Nope, What used to be widespread isn't so today. We could dig up a few failed filters from other brands too.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Nope, What used to be widespread isn't so today. We could dig up a few failed filters from other brands too.

Seems to be mainly the M+H/Purolator made filters that are still showing media tears these days. Start keeping track and see for yourself. Those filters have some pretty brittle media, just like they did back in the peak tearing days. And brittle weak media does not play well with wide pleat spacing.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Here's what 15 minutes of searching for recent posts with torn media came up with. All of these are Mann+Hummel/Purolator made filters. You won't find many torn filters that are not M+H/Purolator made. Like I said above: Seems to be mainly the M+H/Purolator made filters that are still showing media tears these days.

PureOne PL14477 cut open

This one goes out to the veterans that remember these filters... Filter was in use for about 5k and 8 months in the 04 Corolla, filtering Mobil Super5000 10W-30. Mostly short tripped. Even though it sat draining for more than 2 months, it was still full of oil. The only thing I see wrong with it...

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PENNZOIL PZ-47 OIL FILTER CUT OPEN TORN PLEAT

This was off a 2022’ Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 diesel pickup at work. Had it in for dipstick recall and tailgate recall. Although filter made in USA; pathetic that it tore as pleats near tear are 💩💩💩 According to Pennzoil Lube place sticker; mileage on whatever HDEO and this filter was 6,787~ At...

bobistheoilguy.com

PROTEC PXL 57502 CUT OPEN

This filter and Napa oil in 10w30 grade was off my farmer friends new to him 18’ F-150 4WD truck longbed with 3.5 engine. He’s unsure of miles on oil since he just bought it. He supplied a Motorcraft oil filter and I put some QSUP 5w30 in. 79,xxx on odometer. I can’t stress enough: do NOT buy or...

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M1-212a torn C&P

2021 silverado 2500hd 6.6 L8T 5950 miles in service filter tore next to the glued seam out/off: 8 quarts Mobil 1 EP HM 5w-30 with Mobil 1 M1-212a in/on: 8 quarts Valvoline EP HM 5w-30 with carquest premium 85402 (PG with silicone gasket)

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M1 212A 4,200 miles failure C&P

Posted a failed 212A a few months ago from a buddy's silverado. This M1 212A is off another buddy's 14 Ford Explorer 3.5L V6 naturally aspirated. Never held anything against these filters just bought them because my other favorite wasnt available at the time. I'm glad this was a short...

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Failed motorcraft fl-500s

Here is a friends filter that I cut for him. Was purchased though a ford dealership where he works. At first glance it seemed fine with the typical wavy pleats. But when I looked closer I could see that the crimped end of the filter media was not sealed. You could see the metal inner tube. It’s...

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Carquest R84712 cut open

Friends car. Filter in use 7,800 miles on a 2015 Subaru Legacy with FB25 engine. Filter was on pretty tight and the filter wrench dug into it a bit, but the media was not torn from that

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BOSCH “premium” #3422 CUT OPEN TORN!

Good Morning BITOGERS. Few more large filters from member getawheel. The note on side of can that was wrote in marker is wore mostly off. Anyways, bottom metal end cap was completely separated from element. AND, as usual: shoddy Purolator Quality Control as gnarly tear at seam end. Not at all...

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[fantastic]

Wait a min...that's my photo.

 

[Plawan]

2020 silverado 1500 5.3L 117,000miles
5900 miles in service

out/off: 8 quarts Mobil 1 EP HM 0w-20 with Fram Titanium FS10575

in/on: 8 quarts Valvoline EP HM 5w-30 with Carquest Premium 84502 (PG with silicone gasket)

wavy but no visible tears.

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It was doing the twist and waving the whole time lol

 

[odie]

The new Frams are very happy these days.. they always wave at you. ️
Thanks for the cps