Fram PH10060 vs PH12060 bypass

[92saturnsl2]

GM had some bulletin in the late 2010's warning dealers not to confuse PF48 filters with PF64. The latter has a 22psi bypass, the former a 15 psi.

Fram came around and introduced their version of the PF64, the PH12060, instead of the PH10060 which I understand equates to a PF48.

My 2018 Tour-X w/ LTG 2.0L engine is on the bulletin as needing the correct PF64. Sadly Rockauto jumbles both together as compatible, the PF48 equivalents and PF64s, so it takes a lot of legwork to weed out the wrong ones due to cross referencing. My most recent filter purchase, I received one that cross references back to the PF48 with the lower bypass rating. Toss it in the garbage or can it be used? Anyone else have this issue?

 

[bullwinkle]

We use the Service Pro E2222 interchangeably on our company LS engines, with a 23 PSI bypass rating, and haven’t seen any issues. Not sure if the PF48 media could stand up to the higher pressure of the newer GM variable PSI oil pumps, that’s why the PF64 came out.

 

[BrendanC]

I use 10575 sized filters on all gm products with a m22x1.5 nipple

 

[ZeeOSix]

Not sure if the PF48 media could stand up to the higher pressure of the newer GM variable PSI oil pumps, that’s why the PF64 came out.

Are those pumps putting out a lot more flow too? The dP across the filter is a function of the flow volume through the filter. The pressure inside the can doesn't cause the dP, it's the oil flow and viscosity.

 

[wemay]

I'd just use the PH10060 if already on hand.
I'd be more concerned using an oil filter with the bypass set HIGHER than recommended.

 

[4WD]

Are those pumps putting out a lot more flow too? The dP across the filter is a function of the flow volume through the filter. The pressure inside the can doesn't cause the dP, it's the oil flow and viscosity.

I think they are bcs the pressure will max out long before the RPM’s do - which to me says the ECM knows I just stomped on it hard and the engine load demand just went up … So it delivers oil flow …

 

[ZeeOSix]

I think they are bcs the pressure will max out long before the RPM’s do - which to me says the ECM knows I just stomped on it hard and the engine load demand just went up … So it delivers oil flow …

I'm talking about non-computer controlled oil pumps. When ECU/computer controlled oil pump are in the picture, it can get convoluted because there are many different way/control logic used with them.

 

[4WD]

I'm talking about non-computer controlled oil pumps. When ECU/computer controlled oil pump are in the picture, it can get convoluted because there are many different way/control logic used with them.

Once you drive them and watch them often - the GM’s are just two stages. The asymmetrical travel is limited to start with. No finesse.
My Mopar is the retard - it’s kicking in high stage when it makes no sense.