wemay
Site Donor 2023
Even a Euro offering...
FRAM oil is now available @AAP
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So a "European" oil with API SN? The rest of that list looks like a lot of imagination since some of the "approvals" conflict with each other.
What a bunch of nonsense. It can't "meets the requirements of" all those at once. Crap in labeling is one of my pet peeves and I'd never buy that oil under any circumstances.
What a bunch of nonsense. It can't "meets the requirements of" all those at once. Crap in labeling is one of my pet peeves and I'd never buy that oil under any circumstances.
Both BMW LL-01 and LL-04, huh? Aren't these two mutually exclusive? 
Zee09
$200 Site Donor 2023
Love Fram but won't be an oil buyer
If they have a non-detergent conventional 30 grade oil, I'll wait for the closeout pricing later this year and pick up some for my power washer pump if the price is right.
wemay
Site Donor 2023
...and just like that
Wow, after reading the classifications, the euro oil has lost all credibility with me. I won't be using it, period. That said, I would be curious to see a VOA.
How can you possibly make that decision based of some photos of it on the shelf?
Zee09
$200 Site Donor 2023
Very easily. I already have my favorites in oil and won't switch.
Photos on a shelf don't mean anything. I won't buy K&N oil either.
Reminds me of my kids who decide whether a food is good or not just by looking at it and not tasting it. Haven't we learned yet that after dozens of excellent UOA's from supertech/basics/kirkland, rebate cheapened pennzoil, RGT, etc., low price oil =/= low quality results?
Zee09
$200 Site Donor 2023
Sounds like you work for Fram or AAP. - why would you even care?
Usual church of Fram blather. That didn’t take long. Fram is not a site sponsor nor is Advance Auto Parts. No need to need to bow down to either. In this case it is just a licensed brand name for a parts store, not even a product made by that windshield wiper company.
While I agree with you on the quality of some of the cheaper oils, I will be avoiding this product due to the conflicting approvals. That alone tells me all I need to know of the integrity its manufacturer. I also know that I am going to be in the minority on this, as I'm sure the product is going to sell just fine, with or without my acceptance.
UOA are no indication of whether an oil meets an approval listed on the container. One would be a fool to substitute a UOA or VOA for Longlife-04 for example. Surely you’re not claiming you can do so are you?
Plus the idiotic listing on that label is indicative of their care and concern for what all that means. It’s one of the worst I’ve seen.
Yes Viriginia, approvals, specifications and licenses are how one judges an oil not a $30 UOA. And they have done an awful job of that.
Marketing 101.
You’re forgetting that people can spend their dollar how they want to. In this case, the FRAM oil marketing didn’t work for Zee09. Not every product can please everyone.
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