Frams aren't that bad but they're not great either. An extra guard 10575 is just over $6 and a 10060 is just under $5. A fram ultra though well you know how that gets cat called on here. But I'd rather just use a supertech if I wanted cheaper at the same quality.Dunno, I don’t shop at Wal mart much. I’ll gladly support Rural King. Everyone always hates on FRAM here; always have and they always will.