FP60 and diesel: How much does it lower the gelling point?

[Terry]

Intelman, LCD guys don't know because it hasn't been tested for Gel Point affectation in years. The product has been in limited but near continous use for 60 years, including cold weather areas like Canada.

I can share recent freeze point testing (D2386)in #2 diesel and that lowered freeze point by 3F when used at 1 ounce to 5 gallons.

#2 non winterized diesel fuel ..........-17F
#2 non winterized FP60 treated diesel....-20F

I do not have #1 or #1/#2 mix fuels levels.

In my opinion if you use a winterized fuel in your area with FP60 as directed you will have no cold weather issues in gel or freeze.

As LCD grows and develops their marketing and testing budgets more data will be available.

For instance recent testing has shown BTU/lb fuel energy gains of what I consider significant levels when treated at the 1 ounce to 5 gallons rate in #2 diesel. Well over 1%, that is significant for such a low treat rate. I do not have permission to share the actual data but as soon as it is authorized it should be on the website or disclosed here.

Be patient with the LCD guys they are trying hard to take this product chemistry to the next level.

Terry

 

[mojo]

Just curious but why are you running freeze points on a distillate fuel? The low temperature operabilty limits for these types of fuels are based upon either cloud point, pour point, wax appearance point, cold filter plugging point, or a combination of these. This practice has been based upon the problems of not being able to see the first formation of crystals in fuels that typically are not too transparent.

 

[Terry]

mojo, ASTM D2386 and a battery of comparative before and after FP60 ASTM D86/ tests were done at the same time to compare Distillation loss, BP,Fire point,Residue testing were all done as requested by Odis Beaver the former owner of LC.

I only interpret what companies pay for!

 

[Intelman34]

With the cold season upon us, I need an answer to this question, but can't seem to get one when I email the guys at LubeControl and the website just says it "lowers the freezing point".

I use FP60 as the additive of choice in my diesel fuel, but I need to know how much it lowers the gelling point of the fuel. Does anyone have data on this?

Thanks!

 

[Terry]

Intelman34, what fuels do you use in your engines? Commercial pump fuels?

If so that winterized or blended fuel is already having a gel point well below the normal #2 diesel. Add FP60 and its even better.

So if it was me I would confidently use FP60 with winterized or blended fuels.

Yes you may use FP60 with PS or any cold weather fuel add. I must say that many of the OTC fuel adds like PS (in a dilution problem) will increase bearing wear rates while FP60 on its own will not.

If Canadians are using the product with their cold weather pump fuels I suspect you will be just fine and get better MPG doing it.

You are welcome.

 

[Intelman34]

I use BP Premier Diesel 100% of the time.

I will continue using the 1oz to 5gal mix of FP60 then.

Thanks again sir!

 

[Intelman34]

A freeze point of -20 isnt all that great and worries me somewhat.

I don't want my filter to become a ball of wax at say 10 degrees.

Is FP60 able to be mixed with Power Service?

Thanks for all the help Terry.

 

[Ken2]

Diesel fuel gelling is actually the wax in the fuel solidifying and clogging the filter. The wax also is heavier than fuel when solidified and drops to the bottom of the tank.

Diesel fuel anti-gel additives cause the wax to solidify into small enough particles so they pass through the filter media, and causes the wax to stay in suspension without dropping to the bottom of the tank.

#2-D plus an antigel has more BTUs per gallon than #2-D & #1-D blend. When very cold, #1-D or kerosene must be blended in, anyway.


Ken