Ford recommends semi synthetic. Why not full???
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That wouldn't be too good for repeat customers now would it ?
The 4 year bump cycle I see 2017, 2021, 2025….
Patman
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Is that also the reason why this thread gets bumped every 3-5 years?
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Holy cow…..2017
Preach it ..
Because Ford’s semi-synthetic meets API SP, as well as many other “ non synthetic “ oils including Supertech “conventional”. Maybe the cat’s out of the bag.
On the other hand maybe the oil is good enough to make it through the warranty period and that’s all they care about. Is there any Bittogers who can chime in on how many miles they have achieved on Ford’s semi synthetic?
On the other hand maybe the oil is good enough to make it through the warranty period and that’s all they care about. Is there any Bittogers who can chime in on how many miles they have achieved on Ford’s semi synthetic?
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Given the cost difference, I never saw a reason to use semi-synthetic in any engine. I use full synthetic in every engine except my boat.
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Cause it’s not needed. Just like most 1000mg vitamins c tablets at the store are way overdosed, it’s likely just overkill in most use cases. Of course we’re on an OCD oil forum so we all think that we need some specialty oil to run for 5k miles. The reality is, most car manufacturers known for longevity have 99%+ of owners maintaining their cars at OEM intervals using store-bought or bulk oil.
Fordtechmakuloco would like to have a word with you. With the amount of cam phaser issues and other valve train issues he's seeing, maybe a better oil and/or a higher viscosity oil with shorter oci may have helped.
-$6-12 per OCI max, 3 times per year or less. Doubt a pair of Jacksons per year is deterring any buyer who can afford the monthly payment on an F-150.
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I work at a ford dealership parts department.
Not many people know this:
When the ford dealer does an oil change with “Synthetic Blend”, the synthetic blend oils actually are in huge metal bulk tanks outside the shop. And these bulk tanks get filled up by local oil manufacturers or local oil distributors. It’s not made by ford, but it is made to meet ford specs. Techs use the bulk oil system if you want synthetic blend. Each technicians bay has an oil “pump” (that looks like a fuel pump nozzle), which is all connected by pipes all throughout the shop, and it all comes from the bulk tank.
If you opt for “full synthetic” at ford dealer, the full synthetic oils come in a Motorcraft Bottle. 12 individual 1 quart bottles in a Motorcraft Box. Techs use these bottles if you want full synthetic.
I’m sure some dealers are a little different, but I can tell you most ford dealership have a bulk oil system for synthetic blend.
Not many people know this:
When the ford dealer does an oil change with “Synthetic Blend”, the synthetic blend oils actually are in huge metal bulk tanks outside the shop. And these bulk tanks get filled up by local oil manufacturers or local oil distributors. It’s not made by ford, but it is made to meet ford specs. Techs use the bulk oil system if you want synthetic blend. Each technicians bay has an oil “pump” (that looks like a fuel pump nozzle), which is all connected by pipes all throughout the shop, and it all comes from the bulk tank.
If you opt for “full synthetic” at ford dealer, the full synthetic oils come in a Motorcraft Bottle. 12 individual 1 quart bottles in a Motorcraft Box. Techs use these bottles if you want full synthetic.
I’m sure some dealers are a little different, but I can tell you most ford dealership have a bulk oil system for synthetic blend.
Our bulk oil distributor delivers Motorcraft, I get all the invoices and write all the POs. We have the 0W20 full synthetic in bulk since we are also a Mazda dealer and the majority of them use 0W20. If you are on RIM/RAPID, you will get nailed hard on loyalty if you don't have purchase history from a Motorcraft vendor for oil.
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Cause it worksI have a 2016 3.5 eco boost with 6100 easy miles on it. Why does Ford not recommend full synthetic as this engine is a twin turbo, and should require the best lubricant possible. Your thoughts are appreciated!
Maybe part of the reason Ford bumped the viscosity up from 5W-20 to 5W-30 on the Coyote. Ford isn't going to throw away CAFE credits by specifying a thicker oil for no good reason.
We have the thermometer of that can upstairs in our parts department. Unfortunately this is an older pic so it isn't as nice today as it was then
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