Folks... Need honest opinions on the the Ford Ecoboost 2.0 and 2.7 in the Ford Edge configurations...
Thanks,
Steve
Thanks,
Steve
Ford Ecoboost 2.0 / 2.7 Thoughts?
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I have a Ford Escape with the Ecoboost 2.0, AWD. I think its rated at 245 hp or thereabouts. Very happy with it. The Edge is a bit bigger and I assume heavier, so I think it would be fine for everybody. Do you want good mpg or power ? I just looked up the 2.7 at tested in the F150 and its 325 hp, 400 ft lbs of torque. https://www.wardsauto.com/engines/2018-winner-ford-f-150-27l-ecoboost-twin-turbo-v-6
The MPG doesn't matter in this case, the durability and longevity is what matters. And the sport model is the only model that comes with the 2.7 whereas the other trims come with the 2.0.
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I have the 2.0T in my Escape and it will get up and go. With the Edge being heavier, it will probably just be so so. You will pay big bucks to get the 2.7T option but, you will have plenty of power. The 3.5L V-6 would probably be just about right.
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They aren't showing the 3.5L as an option on any of the models, just the 2.0 / 2.7.
My mom has the 2.0EB in her Fusion and absolutely loves it. Even when I drive it and am used to my Mustang, the power is great for the car. There is minimal turbo lag and when the power does hit, it isn't like my 04 Volvo S60R that would snap your head back and break the tires loose. More of a controlled power application thing.
The 2.7EB is a very strong engine, it has a weak point where the oil pan leaks though. We haven't seen many recently, but had a clump of them, to get it to stop leaking you have to leave it on a lift with the pan off overnight, then put on a new pan and wait a day to add oil for the RTV to cure. I think we had an early one where we did injectors, but I think that was mostly a tech pulling out the parts cannon.
I know it isn't the recommended by Ford thing, but I use Mobil 0W40 in my mom's Fusion and have it changed every 5K miles. I would do it myself but there is a huge under car shield thing that I hate dealing with on my back on jackstands, so I have one of the techs I trust do it. She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
The 2.7EB is a very strong engine, it has a weak point where the oil pan leaks though. We haven't seen many recently, but had a clump of them, to get it to stop leaking you have to leave it on a lift with the pan off overnight, then put on a new pan and wait a day to add oil for the RTV to cure. I think we had an early one where we did injectors, but I think that was mostly a tech pulling out the parts cannon.
I know it isn't the recommended by Ford thing, but I use Mobil 0W40 in my mom's Fusion and have it changed every 5K miles. I would do it myself but there is a huge under car shield thing that I hate dealing with on my back on jackstands, so I have one of the techs I trust do it. She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
Originally Posted by StevieC
The MPG doesn't matter in this case, the durability and longevity is what matters. And the sport model is the only model that comes with the 2.7 whereas the other trims come with the 2.0.
The big mill won't have to work as hard - but may strain the trans.
There are feet and feet of chains and slippers in those mills, and lots of 3.5 EBs have had timing chain probs- only seen a few issues on the 2.7's.
The cam phasers are also sensitive to particles.
Id do everything I could to keep the oil clean and keep particles out of those chains-
- if she were mine Id run an Amsoil, RP, or Fram Ultra filter, AND -Id use a magnetic drain plug, and filter mags or base end buttons, and stick to reasonable OCI's.
UD
The MPG doesn't matter in this case, the durability and longevity is what matters. And the sport model is the only model that comes with the 2.7 whereas the other trims come with the 2.0.
The big mill won't have to work as hard - but may strain the trans.
There are feet and feet of chains and slippers in those mills, and lots of 3.5 EBs have had timing chain probs- only seen a few issues on the 2.7's.
The cam phasers are also sensitive to particles.
Id do everything I could to keep the oil clean and keep particles out of those chains-
- if she were mine Id run an Amsoil, RP, or Fram Ultra filter, AND -Id use a magnetic drain plug, and filter mags or base end buttons, and stick to reasonable OCI's.
UD
That's strange. I haven't seen anything on the 2019 from the Ford Canada website. The specs for the 2018 are a bit ambiguous.
https://www.ford.ca/suvs-crossovers/edge/models/edge-se/
https://www.ford.ca/suvs-crossovers/edge/models/edge-se/
I had an Edge rental with the 2L turbo and it was ok at best. 220hp with reg fuel and 245 with premium fuel. Personally, id go for the 2.7 over the 2.0. I didnt find the 2l good on gas either...i got much better mpg with an impala with a v6. A nice vehicle though
Originally Posted by Rolla07
I had an Edge rental with the 2L turbo and it was ok at best. 220hp with reg fuel and 245 with premium fuel. Personally, id go for the 2.7 over the 2.0. I didnt find the 2l good on gas either...i got much better mpg with an impala with a v6. A nice vehicle though
The wife's Escape 2.0T gets about 30-31 mpg on the highway, which totally surprised me. Running 75 with the a/c on still nets 28 mpg. 2 people and towing the Waverunner gets about 26-27 mpg running about 65-70. I forgot to mention, a buddy of mine is a Ford mechanic, and both he has a 2016 Edge that he loves, but I do not recall what engine.
I had an Edge rental with the 2L turbo and it was ok at best. 220hp with reg fuel and 245 with premium fuel. Personally, id go for the 2.7 over the 2.0. I didnt find the 2l good on gas either...i got much better mpg with an impala with a v6. A nice vehicle though
The wife's Escape 2.0T gets about 30-31 mpg on the highway, which totally surprised me. Running 75 with the a/c on still nets 28 mpg. 2 people and towing the Waverunner gets about 26-27 mpg running about 65-70. I forgot to mention, a buddy of mine is a Ford mechanic, and both he has a 2016 Edge that he loves, but I do not recall what engine.
Thanks everyone who contributed this far. Helping my aunt make a decision and she loves the Edge but wanted my advice on which EB is better and while I hadn't really head anything bad about EB 2.0/2.7 engines I knew the folks here would be a better source of information.
I think here you can only get the 2.7EB in an Edge Sport which are cool rides but sometimes a bit much for some people.
my brother picked up an f150 with the 2.7 ecoboost not to long ago and i went for a test drive with him before he bought it and I was rather impressed how quick it was.
i would expect it to be a nice match in a smaller crossover vehicle.
I saw they were offering the 2.7 in the edges and maybe in a year or 2 I'd like to upgrade to something newer, bet its a sweet ride.
i would expect it to be a nice match in a smaller crossover vehicle.
I saw they were offering the 2.7 in the edges and maybe in a year or 2 I'd like to upgrade to something newer, bet its a sweet ride.
Originally Posted by bdcardinal
My mom has the 2.0EB in her Fusion and absolutely loves it. Even when I drive it and am used to my Mustang, the power is great for the car. There is minimal turbo lag and when the power does hit, it isn't like my 04 Volvo S60R that would snap your head back and break the tires loose. More of a controlled power application thing.
The 2.7EB is a very strong engine, it has a weak point where the oil pan leaks though. We haven't seen many recently, but had a clump of them, to get it to stop leaking you have to leave it on a lift with the pan off overnight, then put on a new pan and wait a day to add oil for the RTV to cure. I think we had an early one where we did injectors, but I think that was mostly a tech pulling out the parts cannon.
I know it isn't the recommended by Ford thing, but I use Mobil 0W40 in my mom's Fusion and have it changed every 5K miles. I would do it myself but there is a huge under car shield thing that I hate dealing with on my back on jackstands, so I have one of the techs I trust do it. She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
We have a shop truck at my work with the 2.7. No oil pan leaks yet and ours already has 19k on it. Using MC cartridge filter and Safety Kleen Eco Power 5w30 DEXOS 1 GEN 2 oil without issue
My mom has the 2.0EB in her Fusion and absolutely loves it. Even when I drive it and am used to my Mustang, the power is great for the car. There is minimal turbo lag and when the power does hit, it isn't like my 04 Volvo S60R that would snap your head back and break the tires loose. More of a controlled power application thing.
The 2.7EB is a very strong engine, it has a weak point where the oil pan leaks though. We haven't seen many recently, but had a clump of them, to get it to stop leaking you have to leave it on a lift with the pan off overnight, then put on a new pan and wait a day to add oil for the RTV to cure. I think we had an early one where we did injectors, but I think that was mostly a tech pulling out the parts cannon.
I know it isn't the recommended by Ford thing, but I use Mobil 0W40 in my mom's Fusion and have it changed every 5K miles. I would do it myself but there is a huge under car shield thing that I hate dealing with on my back on jackstands, so I have one of the techs I trust do it. She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
We have a shop truck at my work with the 2.7. No oil pan leaks yet and ours already has 19k on it. Using MC cartridge filter and Safety Kleen Eco Power 5w30 DEXOS 1 GEN 2 oil without issue
For 2019 it is called the Edge ST, no longer Sport. The 2.7l powerhouse starts @ $43,350 so be aware of that. The NA V-6 is gone. Keep in mind that Ford rates all their TT engines on premium fuel. As pointed out in an above post the horsepower drops significantly with 87 octane. MPG is 19/26/21 mpg city/highway/combined with the 2.7 and AWD is standard on that model. It can escalate to $50K rather quickly.
I'd love to own one!
I'd love to own one!
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Originally Posted by bdcardinal
She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
Our 2.3 EB Explorer has almost 32,000 miles. It runs great but I guess it would be smart to change the plugs before the winter cold hits. Plus being a 4 cylinder they are easy to get to. I purchased the Motorcraft Iridium's from Rock Auto for ~$4.50 each. When you say ...plugs being blown out... you hopefully don't mean like with the earlier 4.6 & 5.4 V-8's.
Whimsey
She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
Our 2.3 EB Explorer has almost 32,000 miles. It runs great but I guess it would be smart to change the plugs before the winter cold hits. Plus being a 4 cylinder they are easy to get to. I purchased the Motorcraft Iridium's from Rock Auto for ~$4.50 each. When you say ...plugs being blown out... you hopefully don't mean like with the earlier 4.6 & 5.4 V-8's.
Whimsey
Originally Posted by Whimsey
Originally Posted by bdcardinal
She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
Our 2.3 EB Explorer has almost 32,000 miles. It runs great but I guess it would be smart to change the plugs before the winter cold hits. Plus being a 4 cylinder they are easy to get to. I purchased the Motorcraft Iridium's from Rock Auto for ~$4.50 each. When you say ...plugs being blown out... you hopefully don't mean like with the earlier 4.6 & 5.4 V-8's.
Whimsey
No no, I mean blown out like on most forced induction engines the gaps increase and they misfire. When I had my S60R right around 30K miles I could see a drop in MPGs and could feel hesitation. The plugs gaps would be massive and changing to new plugs would fix everything.
I noticed the same thing on my Mustang even though it is NA. I changed the plugs at 15K (purely curious) and again at 40K and the car ran a ton better. Plus changing them early alerted me to an internal valve cover leak. Yay for being bored with a full toolbox.
Originally Posted by bdcardinal
She is just over 30K miles so I will do the spark plugs soon since that is about when we start seeing misfire codes for the plugs being blown out.
Our 2.3 EB Explorer has almost 32,000 miles. It runs great but I guess it would be smart to change the plugs before the winter cold hits. Plus being a 4 cylinder they are easy to get to. I purchased the Motorcraft Iridium's from Rock Auto for ~$4.50 each. When you say ...plugs being blown out... you hopefully don't mean like with the earlier 4.6 & 5.4 V-8's.
Whimsey
No no, I mean blown out like on most forced induction engines the gaps increase and they misfire. When I had my S60R right around 30K miles I could see a drop in MPGs and could feel hesitation. The plugs gaps would be massive and changing to new plugs would fix everything.
I noticed the same thing on my Mustang even though it is NA. I changed the plugs at 15K (purely curious) and again at 40K and the car ran a ton better. Plus changing them early alerted me to an internal valve cover leak. Yay for being bored with a full toolbox.
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