whitewolf how about that Dex gear oil???
is it a fill and forget oil??
is it a fill and forget oil??
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Originally Posted By: Whitewolf
Adding in sequence IV sometimes helps to sort the men from the boys, as does repeating the test on used fluid.
Subaru HP-ATF in the paper, too?
The ATF's in the paper are labeled A-G. I assume A= Dex VI, I don't think anyone has every correctly stated what fluids B-G are.
Originally Posted By: Whitewolf
Adding in sequence IV sometimes helps to sort the men from the boys, as does repeating the test on used fluid.
Subaru HP-ATF in the paper, too?
The ATF's in the paper are labeled A-G. I assume A= Dex VI, I don't think anyone has every correctly stated what fluids B-G are.
Has anyone considered that the crack in the case can cause aeration of the fluid? (depending on the location) Now before anyone raises the "He's crazy flag" my next question is was the trans leaking fluid at the crack?
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Originally Posted By: PT1
Has anyone considered that the crack in the case can cause aeration of the fluid? (depending on the location) Now before anyone raises the "He's crazy flag" my next question is was the trans leaking fluid at the crack?
Not crazy at all. Depending upon where the crack was it is a distinct possibility that also occurred to me.
Has anyone considered that the crack in the case can cause aeration of the fluid? (depending on the location) Now before anyone raises the "He's crazy flag" my next question is was the trans leaking fluid at the crack?
Not crazy at all. Depending upon where the crack was it is a distinct possibility that also occurred to me.
Originally Posted By: Whitewolf
Originally Posted By: PT1
Has anyone considered that the crack in the case can cause aeration of the fluid? (depending on the location) Now before anyone raises the "He's crazy flag" my next question is was the trans leaking fluid at the crack?
Not crazy at all. Depending upon where the crack was it is a distinct possibility that also occurred to me.
I would be really suspicious of this if the case is cracked and the trans is not leaking fluid.
Originally Posted By: PT1
Has anyone considered that the crack in the case can cause aeration of the fluid? (depending on the location) Now before anyone raises the "He's crazy flag" my next question is was the trans leaking fluid at the crack?
Not crazy at all. Depending upon where the crack was it is a distinct possibility that also occurred to me.
I would be really suspicious of this if the case is cracked and the trans is not leaking fluid.
Originally Posted By: Oilgal
Here is a perfect example. Do you know what they did, for ATX cooling, in the second generation Town&Country/Caravan/Voyager minivan series 1992-1995? They routed ATF from the ATX, to a "cooler" inside the drivers side radiator end tank, then back to the ATX. That meant that your ATF was never cooler than the engine radiator coolant.
You do realize that just about ALL auto manufacturers use transmission coolers like that right? They are very efficient and do an excellent job cooling down transmissions. Not only do they cool down the fluid, they help the transmission get up to proper operating temperature faster in cold weather by using the engine's hot coolant to heat the transmission fluid. Yes, of course heat kills transmissions, but they also have a proper operating temperature and they shouldn't be too cool. The cooler built into the radiator does an excellent job of keeping the fluid cool, while still keeping it at the proper operating temperature.
Here is a perfect example. Do you know what they did, for ATX cooling, in the second generation Town&Country/Caravan/Voyager minivan series 1992-1995? They routed ATF from the ATX, to a "cooler" inside the drivers side radiator end tank, then back to the ATX. That meant that your ATF was never cooler than the engine radiator coolant.
You do realize that just about ALL auto manufacturers use transmission coolers like that right? They are very efficient and do an excellent job cooling down transmissions. Not only do they cool down the fluid, they help the transmission get up to proper operating temperature faster in cold weather by using the engine's hot coolant to heat the transmission fluid. Yes, of course heat kills transmissions, but they also have a proper operating temperature and they shouldn't be too cool. The cooler built into the radiator does an excellent job of keeping the fluid cool, while still keeping it at the proper operating temperature.
Originally Posted By: Oilgal
Paper? I dooooohn't neeeeeeeeed no stinkeen paper.
I have been running Amsoil in my A604 for three years now. I have had absolutely no problems, what-so-ever, in three years of extremely severe service.
Papers are like statistics. They can be made to say anything. My own experience, with DXC ATF, their "service" and stealerships, overrides any "paper".
I do agree that Amsoil does make some very good lubricants. I switched from Castrol edge and started using Amsoil 5w30. I will NEVER use the XL stuff just because I like the better stuff. I have read alot of bad things about Amsoil but those people who write such lies are cynical and probably just afraid of good brands. I will try a product just once to see if I like it. I will stick to Amsoil. Who here would use the ATF in an a604? The car I drive is a 2002 Dodge neon without much done to it but a k&n filter (not cold air). I don't really care for the loud mufflers or that sort of stuff.
Paper? I dooooohn't neeeeeeeeed no stinkeen paper.
I have been running Amsoil in my A604 for three years now. I have had absolutely no problems, what-so-ever, in three years of extremely severe service.
Papers are like statistics. They can be made to say anything. My own experience, with DXC ATF, their "service" and stealerships, overrides any "paper".
I do agree that Amsoil does make some very good lubricants. I switched from Castrol edge and started using Amsoil 5w30. I will NEVER use the XL stuff just because I like the better stuff. I have read alot of bad things about Amsoil but those people who write such lies are cynical and probably just afraid of good brands. I will try a product just once to see if I like it. I will stick to Amsoil. Who here would use the ATF in an a604? The car I drive is a 2002 Dodge neon without much done to it but a k&n filter (not cold air). I don't really care for the loud mufflers or that sort of stuff.
Oilgal, I like that line about the Three Stooges! I like them all (even Joe and Shemp).
Yeah, who needs standardized testing performed by those elitist engineers and techs at the SAE. A few years of one person using a fluid without catastrophic transmission failure is all you really need to know ....
Originally Posted By: wgtoys
Yeah, who needs standardized testing performed by those elitist engineers and techs at the SAE. A few years of one person using a fluid without catastrophic transmission failure is all you really need to know ....
The point is that you really don't want a "catastrophic" failure, particularly one that might end in a 'thermal event'. So please don't rubbish the ASTM procedures that have been designed and developed over decades in order to evaluate and predict fluid performance.
Yeah, who needs standardized testing performed by those elitist engineers and techs at the SAE. A few years of one person using a fluid without catastrophic transmission failure is all you really need to know ....
The point is that you really don't want a "catastrophic" failure, particularly one that might end in a 'thermal event'. So please don't rubbish the ASTM procedures that have been designed and developed over decades in order to evaluate and predict fluid performance.
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