Fluorinated ZDDP as a superior Lubricant ??????

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Fluorinated ZDDP as a superior Lubricant

Fluorinated ZDDP derivatives have superior lubricating properties relative to ZDDP, and can be used at levels approaching 10-times less in oil lubricants to achieve the same level of wear protection. These are produced by reacting ZDDP with fluorinated transition metal compounds (MFx where M is Fe, Ti, Zr, Al). Fluorine can enter the structure either directly bonded to the phosphorous atom or on the carbon chain of the alkyl groups of the ZDDP. The fluorinated products of ZDDP can form strong bonds with both the metal surface as well as combine with the protective tribofilm. These tribofilms can be formed under conditions simulating the conditions in an engine. If the mechanical integrity of the films is much stronger in the presence of fluorine then it is possible to significantly reduce the amount of phosphorous and sulfur in lubricating oils.

Deposition of "PTFE-like" compositions on Tribosurfaces
Initial PRO studies also show that transition metal fluoride nanoparticles can act as catalysts to help deposit highly adherent tribofilms on the surface of metals. These MFx compounds where M is a transition metal ion serves the purpose of a catalyst for reacting with and binding low molecular weight PTFE to metal surfaces, and also helps in the decomposition of ZDDP to form tribofilms on the surface. These nanoparticles, by virtue of their high specific surface area, are very reactive and can assist in the formation of organofluorophosphate and organoflurothiophosphate tribofilms with enhanced tribological properties, in particular, low friction coatings. If the mechanical integrity of the films is much stronger in the presence of fluorine then it is possible to significantly reduce the amount of phosphorous and sulfur in lubricating oils

These new compositions are designed to completely replace ZDDP as wear reducing additives in engine oils. The approach here is to develop more PTFE-like tribofilms on metal surfaces, which are "self-healing" as a result of the "catalytic" reactions described above using metal fluoride catalysts.
 
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Upon combustion or decomposition, fluorinated compounds will produce some hydrofluoric acid (much stronger than hydrocloric acid). So, anyone that has issues with clorinated hydrocarbons should have similar conserns with these compounds. On the other hand, one can likely develop an oil that can handle the acid produced under MOST conditions.
 
Shoot, hydrofluoric acid will eat away at just about anything. (How do you suppose the light bulb companies etch the interior of light bulb glass envelopes for a frosted appearance?) Personally I'm not ready to dismiss fluorinated ZDDP as dangerous to engine metalurgy until I know more about the stability of this product.
 
Hydrofluoric acid is extremely nasty. I work in a lab that uses several types of acid and this is one of the most dangerous. But the question is if it would form.

Fluorine desperately wants to latch onto something, but once it reacts, it is very stable because that fluorine is hanging on grimly to whatever it latched on to. That's why Teflon (PTFE, polytetrafluoroethylene) is so unreactive. That fluorine doesn't want to go anywhere now that it's found somewhere to live.

So I'm guessing that fluorinated ZDDP would be no big deal. These "metal fluoride nanoparticles" sound less good but I'm sure the scientists are aware of the problem and will pay close attention.
 
Yeah, I was subtley inferring as much in my post above. Hydrogen, by some accounts is considered somewhat reactive, too. I suppose that would be a good argument against drinking water according to the logic of GMorg since every molecule of water contains two(!) atoms of hydrogen...
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The logic was sound. The point was that IF one has concerns about one of the halogens (as in chlorinated hydrocarbons) it is logical to have similar concerns for another (fluorinated hydrocarbons). One could extend the logic to the rest of the family (bromine, iodine, ect). I would not recommend dismissing fluorocarbons either.

By the way, if ones body ever reached cumbustion temperatures, there are several things you should be concerned about.
 
Sounds interesting. I hope they develope it into lubricant additives.
Since the additive level is 10x less, and I'm assuming that most oils have reasonable TBN levels, I don't see why 'acid' would be a problem.
 
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