For my part I see a lot of policemen that break the rules of the road often. I've even had two pull up on either side of me, one in the left turn lane, at a stop light. When it turned green both went straight ahead and the one on the left cut in front of me. Speeding, Uturns and especially speeding at night without flashing lights are common. Now I realize that some of this is needed, but I see it way too often to believe that it is for police business. Especially when they go flying past me and then sit at the stop light.
FL State Trooper arrests cop for reckless driving
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We had a similar thing here a few years ago when an Indiana state trooper arrested a Indianapolis police officer on some kind of traffic charge. It was a giant cluster %*#(. I'm not sure if the FOP (police union) helped to smooth things out or fanned the flames, but I believe the arrest stuck.
Originally Posted By: Touring5
We had a similar thing here a few years ago when an Indiana state trooper arrested a Indianapolis police officer on some kind of traffic charge. It was a giant cluster %*#(. I'm not sure if the FOP (police union) helped to smooth things out or fanned the flames, but I believe the arrest stuck.
so if the arrest sticks on this miami cop, is his career over? you can't have a record and be a cop.
We had a similar thing here a few years ago when an Indiana state trooper arrested a Indianapolis police officer on some kind of traffic charge. It was a giant cluster %*#(. I'm not sure if the FOP (police union) helped to smooth things out or fanned the flames, but I believe the arrest stuck.
so if the arrest sticks on this miami cop, is his career over? you can't have a record and be a cop.
My dad is a retired police officer. All the small town cops where he lives know that he worked in the lowest income/highest crime area of a large city.
He drives his POV like it's his old Caprice, CVPI, or Tahoe. Seriously. He doesn't speed but if he wants to go around something, he does. Wrong side of the road? "Calm down son, there's no one coming." He'll wave at the cop. The small town cop will smile and wave back and off he goes.
I don't know what was going through the Trooper in that video's mind. She must never go into his jurisdiction.
I remember a story an off duty police officer being pulled over for driving under the influence. They griped him out for a long time and then decided to give him a ride home. The offending officer did not get a DWI but he did have to pay to get his car out of the impound.
He drives his POV like it's his old Caprice, CVPI, or Tahoe. Seriously. He doesn't speed but if he wants to go around something, he does. Wrong side of the road? "Calm down son, there's no one coming." He'll wave at the cop. The small town cop will smile and wave back and off he goes.
I don't know what was going through the Trooper in that video's mind. She must never go into his jurisdiction.
I remember a story an off duty police officer being pulled over for driving under the influence. They griped him out for a long time and then decided to give him a ride home. The offending officer did not get a DWI but he did have to pay to get his car out of the impound.
What does speeding have to do with this stop? I dont get why the cops in the donut shop would say this is a speeding stop..it may have started that way, but watch the tape and the timing. That trooper was on that guys bumper with her lights on for quite a while...the cop that was off duty slowed down for traffic and sped up a few times with an officer with lights blaring in tow. If you or I did this it would not be speeding, it would be felony fleeing and we would be face down on the ground in cuffs. This trooper did the right thing pulling her weapon, the way that guy acted before he actually pulled over was felonious conduct, and he should know better. She was right to treat him like a felony stop, because it was.
Then I see he has the nerve to pull over to the left of traffic, putting both of them into more danger from traffic...what a tool.
Then I see he has the nerve to pull over to the left of traffic, putting both of them into more danger from traffic...what a tool.
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
Pulling out her gun was a big no-no.
She should have chewed him out and gave him the business.
She pulled her gun out because she feared for her safety. That could've been anyone driving that Police car. Later on in the video, she even tells the Miami officer that she thought the car was stolen. It's not everyday you see a Police car cruising the freeway at 120mph with its lights off.
Pulling out her gun was a big no-no.
She should have chewed him out and gave him the business.
She pulled her gun out because she feared for her safety. That could've been anyone driving that Police car. Later on in the video, she even tells the Miami officer that she thought the car was stolen. It's not everyday you see a Police car cruising the freeway at 120mph with its lights off.
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I'm truly surprised to see people defending this cop that was breaking the law. You simply can't have a society with selective law enforcement. If a law is broken then it needs to be corrected. This is plain and simple. Cops aren't better at driving, or of higher intelligence and they're certainly not the best at making judgement calls. If that guy had caused a wreck that killed someone then the question would be posed as to why he was allowed to drive his government vehicle (ie: tax payer owned) at break-neck speeds enroute to a second job without anyone saying anything.
If I had been the State Trooper I'd have treated him like Buford T. Justice. This type of action can never be allowed or else we'll live in a society depicting Eastern Europe where the party members got the political privilege while the citizenry was abused. This isn't a joke or 'professional privilege'. This is becoming a serious problem in our country.
If I had been the State Trooper I'd have treated him like Buford T. Justice. This type of action can never be allowed or else we'll live in a society depicting Eastern Europe where the party members got the political privilege while the citizenry was abused. This isn't a joke or 'professional privilege'. This is becoming a serious problem in our country.
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I have to wonder: if he simply had his lights on--would he have been stopped? Had he simply not driving quite as recklessly, no one would have noticed.
Big dope. He's admitted that he was driving to an off-duty job; no emergency involved. He used his office to his own gain. Should have the book thrown at him, I think.
Big dope. He's admitted that he was driving to an off-duty job; no emergency involved. He used his office to his own gain. Should have the book thrown at him, I think.
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
What does speeding have to do with this stop? I dont get why the cops in the donut shop would say this is a speeding stop..it may have started that way, but watch the tape and the timing. That trooper was on that guys bumper with her lights on for quite a while...the cop that was off duty slowed down for traffic and sped up a few times with an officer with lights blaring in tow. If you or I did this it would not be speeding, it would be felony fleeing and we would be face down on the ground in cuffs. This trooper did the right thing pulling her weapon, the way that guy acted before he actually pulled over was felonious conduct, and he should know better. She was right to treat him like a felony stop, because it was.
Then I see he has the nerve to pull over to the left of traffic, putting both of them into more danger from traffic...what a tool.
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What does speeding have to do with this stop? I dont get why the cops in the donut shop would say this is a speeding stop..it may have started that way, but watch the tape and the timing. That trooper was on that guys bumper with her lights on for quite a while...the cop that was off duty slowed down for traffic and sped up a few times with an officer with lights blaring in tow. If you or I did this it would not be speeding, it would be felony fleeing and we would be face down on the ground in cuffs. This trooper did the right thing pulling her weapon, the way that guy acted before he actually pulled over was felonious conduct, and he should know better. She was right to treat him like a felony stop, because it was.
Then I see he has the nerve to pull over to the left of traffic, putting both of them into more danger from traffic...what a tool.
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Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
What does speeding have to do with this stop? I dont get why the cops in the donut shop would say this is a speeding stop..it may have started that way, but watch the tape and the timing. That trooper was on that guys bumper with her lights on for quite a while...the cop that was off duty slowed down for traffic and sped up a few times with an officer with lights blaring in tow. If you or I did this it would not be speeding, it would be felony fleeing and we would be face down on the ground in cuffs. This trooper did the right thing pulling her weapon, the way that guy acted before he actually pulled over was felonious conduct, and he should know better. She was right to treat him like a felony stop, because it was.
Then I see he has the nerve to pull over to the left of traffic, putting both of them into more danger from traffic...what a tool.
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Those who we pay to enforce the law should also obey it.
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
What does speeding have to do with this stop? I dont get why the cops in the donut shop would say this is a speeding stop..it may have started that way, but watch the tape and the timing. That trooper was on that guys bumper with her lights on for quite a while...the cop that was off duty slowed down for traffic and sped up a few times with an officer with lights blaring in tow. If you or I did this it would not be speeding, it would be felony fleeing and we would be face down on the ground in cuffs. This trooper did the right thing pulling her weapon, the way that guy acted before he actually pulled over was felonious conduct, and he should know better. She was right to treat him like a felony stop, because it was.
Then I see he has the nerve to pull over to the left of traffic, putting both of them into more danger from traffic...what a tool.
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Those who we pay to enforce the law should also obey it.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Those who we pay to enforce the law should also obey it.
Or at least not act like complete clowns. Most people I know would actually be happier if cops did drive a bit faster than the limit--or at least everyone else. That way, they wouldn't be following you for a few miles, making you think he's just waiting for some backup before pulling you over...
Those who we pay to enforce the law should also obey it.
Or at least not act like complete clowns. Most people I know would actually be happier if cops did drive a bit faster than the limit--or at least everyone else. That way, they wouldn't be following you for a few miles, making you think he's just waiting for some backup before pulling you over...
It's rare I see one doing the speed limit. Seen quite a few hitting the lights/siren just to go through a red light.
But this one in Florida was way out of line. I wonder if the donut eaters who critized the trooper ever gave a thought to just how lucky he was he didn't run into any one.
Being late for a job..... How many times did he let speeders go for using that excuse...
Leave early next time.
But this one in Florida was way out of line. I wonder if the donut eaters who critized the trooper ever gave a thought to just how lucky he was he didn't run into any one.
Being late for a job..... How many times did he let speeders go for using that excuse...
Leave early next time.
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oh gee i thought the laws was just for us.
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Seen quite a few hitting the lights/siren just to go through a red light.
I actually had one Leo in front of me this afternoon turn on his overheads to speed though a school zone..He shut everything off once he left the 15 MPH zone..I see the red light thing you mentioned all the time.
Seen quite a few hitting the lights/siren just to go through a red light.
I actually had one Leo in front of me this afternoon turn on his overheads to speed though a school zone..He shut everything off once he left the 15 MPH zone..I see the red light thing you mentioned all the time.
I'm sure some Troopers are not too happy as they are on the road many times by themselves and need city cops to back them up when #### happens and need help ASAP. I used to go riding with my brother's friend that was a cop for FL City PD (i had to sign a wavier) and they are always backing up the FHP, so does Homestead PD.
If your city allows rides with a cop, sign up for it cause very interesting and lot of stuff you see not shown on the show COPS.
If your city allows rides with a cop, sign up for it cause very interesting and lot of stuff you see not shown on the show COPS.
Originally Posted By: bigmike
...Pulling the gun wasn't the brightest move, though. Did she really expect to have to defend herself with it? OTOH, she knew he was armed, so I'm on the fence.
Doing 120MPH may not be the arrestable offense - it was probably the wreckless driving.
The guy appeared to have been evading arrest by not pulling over. For all she knew it may have been a joyrider in a stolen police car.
...Pulling the gun wasn't the brightest move, though. Did she really expect to have to defend herself with it? OTOH, she knew he was armed, so I'm on the fence.
Doing 120MPH may not be the arrestable offense - it was probably the wreckless driving.
The guy appeared to have been evading arrest by not pulling over. For all she knew it may have been a joyrider in a stolen police car.
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http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Attor...-133041778.html
Excuses...Excuses...
Here's a really good video concerning the stop. Great audio. Looks like he does this all time time!
http://www.abc-7.com/global/story.asp?s=15908271
http://www.abc-7.com/global/story.asp?s=15908271
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Originally Posted By: bigmike
...Pulling the gun wasn't the brightest move, though. Did she really expect to have to defend herself with it? OTOH, she knew he was armed, so I'm on the fence.
Doing 120MPH may not be the arrestable offense - it was probably the wreckless driving.
The guy appeared to have been evading arrest by not pulling over. For all she knew it may have been a joyrider in a stolen police car.
Exactly. I think the lady did the right thing. Is there a law that states that off duty officers do NOT have to obey the laws? I see it all the time here in Ca. I guess if you drive a black/white car you are above the law!
Originally Posted By: bigmike
...Pulling the gun wasn't the brightest move, though. Did she really expect to have to defend herself with it? OTOH, she knew he was armed, so I'm on the fence.
Doing 120MPH may not be the arrestable offense - it was probably the wreckless driving.
The guy appeared to have been evading arrest by not pulling over. For all she knew it may have been a joyrider in a stolen police car.
Exactly. I think the lady did the right thing. Is there a law that states that off duty officers do NOT have to obey the laws? I see it all the time here in Ca. I guess if you drive a black/white car you are above the law!
When my dad was trying to convince me to pursue a career in law enforcement and I was doing ride-alongs, the rules about obeying traffic laws were "...within a reasonable margin of safety." To me the definition of that was that a police officer could disobey any speed limit or traffic law so long as he or she did not "exceed a reasonable margin of safety". If you caused a collision, were involved in a collision, or damaged your vehicle while breaking traffic laws without lights and siren on, then you had exceeded that "margin of safety" and you were wrong. You were subject to corrective action. But otherwise, you could do whatever you wanted to in a patrol car.
Then several police officers either caused collisions or were involved in collisions. One police officer hit and killed a young girl that was crossing the street. That rule got changed.
Then several police officers either caused collisions or were involved in collisions. One police officer hit and killed a young girl that was crossing the street. That rule got changed.
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