FL-910S oversize?

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Originally Posted By: stchman
Ahhhh, another oversize filter thread.

These threads never cease to amaze me. There is no documented proof that using a slightly larger oil filter has any bearing on engine life.

The few extra ounces of oil and additional filter media only make the owner "feel" better.

Don't you think the filter manufacturer would use the FL-400 in place of the FL-910S if they are indeed the same filter?

Put an oversize filter on if you want, there will be no effect on engine life, it might give you a warm fuzzy.



Perhaps, but as I understand it, one of the deciding factors here is the length of the filter, and how far it sticks out under the engine. I know my Fusion has a shroud under the engine, and a removable 'door' that covers where the oil filter goes. In my experience, both the FL910s and FL400s go on the car and still clear the 'door' so I don't see this as a problem.

This was one of the factors I took into consideration when I was deciding whether or not to use the FL400s in place of the FL910s on my car.

One of the other considerations here was price. For some strange reason, the FL400s seems to be cheaper than the FL910s. If we stipulate that your statement "There is no documented proof that using a slightly larger oil filter has any bearing on engine life" is correct, then moving to the larger, cheaper filter, won't hurt a thing.

On the other hand, if it turns out that having a slightly larger filter, including the slightly larger holding, cooling, and filtering capacity, IS ultimately beneficial, then so much the better.
 
Originally Posted By: SirTanon
Originally Posted By: stchman
Ahhhh, another oversize filter thread.

These threads never cease to amaze me. There is no documented proof that using a slightly larger oil filter has any bearing on engine life.

The few extra ounces of oil and additional filter media only make the owner "feel" better.

Don't you think the filter manufacturer would use the FL-400 in place of the FL-910S if they are indeed the same filter?

Put an oversize filter on if you want, there will be no effect on engine life, it might give you a warm fuzzy.



Perhaps, but as I understand it, one of the deciding factors here is the length of the filter, and how far it sticks out under the engine. I know my Fusion has a shroud under the engine, and a removable 'door' that covers where the oil filter goes. In my experience, both the FL910s and FL400s go on the car and still clear the 'door' so I don't see this as a problem.

This was one of the factors I took into consideration when I was deciding whether or not to use the FL400s in place of the FL910s on my car.

One of the other considerations here was price. For some strange reason, the FL400s seems to be cheaper than the FL910s. If we stipulate that your statement "There is no documented proof that using a slightly larger oil filter has any bearing on engine life" is correct, then moving to the larger, cheaper filter, won't hurt a thing.

On the other hand, if it turns out that having a slightly larger filter, including the slightly larger holding, cooling, and filtering capacity, IS ultimately beneficial, then so much the better.


If the FL910S and FL-400 are as interchangeable as you and others say, then Motorcraft would simply discontinue the FL-400 and use nothing but FL-910S filters. This would make perfect sense as they would have one less filter to take into account in their inventory.

As I said before, warm fuzzy is all people get out of using a slightly larger oil filter. If there is indeed benefit, please show me the proof.
 
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
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Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
The 20195 is actually quite a bit longer than the FL-400S. It may or may not fit depending on your application.

By how much any idea?
 
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
The 20195 is actually quite a bit longer than the FL-400S. It may or may not fit depending on your application.


The 400s used to be the same size as the 20195, but Ford shortened it later on. Therefore, you will have no problem
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Fram's 3600 and Wix 51315 are the same longer size as the 20195.
 
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
The 20195 is actually quite a bit longer than the FL-400S. It may or may not fit depending on your application.


The 400s used to be the same size as the 20195, but Ford shortened it later on. Therefore, you will have no problem
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Fram's 3600 and Wix 51315 are the same longer size as the 20195.


It could be an issue if you were trying to use the 20195 in an application that calls for the 910S.
 
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Motorcraft sez the 400 is 4.88 the 910 is 3.50

Hmmm ok so the puro is a tad shorter.
 
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Motorcraft sez the 400 is 4.88 the 910 is 3.50



4.88 must be the length of the old ones before they were shortened. I just measured a FL-400S I have on hand, and it's right at 4" long. I also measured a Fram XG3614 (FL-910S equivalent) and it was just under 3.5" long.
 
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