FL-910S FAIL

[BrendanC]

2020 Ford Escape 2.0L
33k miles
in service no idea

out/off: dealer bulk probably 5w-20 and FL-910s

in/on: 6.7 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-30 with Carquest Premium filter

torn and the bottom of the pleats not even glued in. let’s go M+H. can’t wait to hear the defense of this.

 

[JavierH19]

The lucky walmart-goer is now gonna get this in an overpriced gold painted scam can...

Par for the course for MH

 

[Glenda W.]

But they don’t tear anymore…

 

[JavierH19]

But they don’t tear anymore…

Tearolater switched to pureonever by letting the pleats move around with flexibility so they wouldn't tear from being secured with glue.

 

[53' Stude]

The lucky walmart-goer is now gonna get this in an overpriced gold painted scam can...

Par for the course for MH

Any idiot that buys a “Purolator 20k” is in for a real surprise and is getting the shaft by M&H!

 

[JavierH19]

Any idiot that buys a “Purolator 20k” is in for a real surprise and is getting the shaft by M&H!

The problem is that many people buy a new product by only looking up the name and age of the company to see if it looks reputable. They'll see that purolator invented the oil filter a century ago and just with that alone think it clearly must be the best oil filter money could ever buy and would scoff at a carquest premium filter as being a cheap junk white can which they'll relate to the supertech one because they can buy a "brand name" purolator that's also G O L D colored which makes it double gooder. Many people will fall for this puroscam.

 

[53' Stude]

The problem is that many people buy a new product by only looking up the name and age of the company to see if it looks reputable. They'll see that purolator invented the oil filter a century ago and just with that alone think it clearly must be the best oil filter money could ever buy and would scoff at a carquest premium filter as being a cheap junk white can which they'll relate to the supertech one because they can buy a "brand name" purolator that's also G O L D colored which makes it double gooder. Many people will fall for this puroscam.

Yep, and ya can’t fix stupid. I won’t ever touch a Purolator or screw one on my vehicles

 

[ZeeOSix]

Trying to keep up with leaky leaf springs.

 

[BornSlippy]

Trying to keep up with leaky leaf springs.

It's a race to see how can suck even more.

 

[Chris142]

The imported filters from china and Vietnam are looking better and better.

 

[fantastic]

Who defends torn filters?
These MC's have not been stellar for many years now. There is no disputing that.

 

[scoot]

Yep, and ya can’t fix stupid. I won’t ever touch a Purolator or screw one on my vehicles

Jeesh settle down dude , not every person is on Bob's site . Doesn't make them an idiot or stupid .

 

[ARCOgraphite]

2020 Ford Escape 2.0L
33k miles
in service no idea

out/off: dealer bulk probably 5w-20 and FL-910s

in/on: 6.7 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-30 with Carquest Premium filter

torn and the bottom of the pleats not even glued in. let’s go M+H. can’t wait to hear the defense of this.

I have the capacity on the 2.0L ecoboom at 5.5 qt (5W30) with filter from two different sources.
Better get her back in before she foams and spins a rod bearing. The 2.5 takes 6.

My OE Honda S2000 filter failed. Tore two pleats. Seems the fan-fold approach requires reconsideration on all these "too small" filters.

Thanks for the heads up on the never ending never/ improving filter saga.

 

[Lubener]

If we lived in a perfect world, there would be no manufacturing defects. I will still use a FL910A on my ODPE.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

If we lived in a perfect world, there would be no manufacturing defects. I will still use a FL910A on my ODPE.

Like I stated before, even with torn pleats 90% of the oil is being filtered continuously at a high volume rate - so the sump has clean oil in it. Therefore anything getting by is clean oil, unless the engine is failing, or you are flailing the car mercilessly stirring up sludge in the pan bottom.

You guys (most of us) using dome end bypass filters are having accumulated large bits possibly washed into the engine at every bypass event.
Some rare filters have a mesh screen placed over the bypass poppet, but that can become a dangerous "failsafe" for a long interval OC if that screen gets blocked.

I Don't want to see failures of course, but they appear all too common with modern oils and E10 fuels.
- Arco

 

[tig1]

I used the MC 910 for many successful years ( half a million miles), but 2 years ago I started noticing black rubber in the bottom of my oil change pan caused by the over spray on the end caps. So I am now using the Fram Ultra, but who knows they may be defective as well. However I never saw torn filter media in the 910s.

 

[BrendanC]

I have the capacity on the 2.0L ecoboom at 5.5 qt (5W30) with filter from two different sources.
Better get her back in before she foams and spins a rod bearing. The 2.5 takes 6.

My OE Honda S2000 filter failed. Tore two pleats. Seems the fan-fold approach requires reconsideration on all these "too small" filters.

Thanks for the heads up on the never ending never/ improving filter saga.

sorry, 1.5l eco boom. idk i’ll never work on it again, it’s a PAIN to do an oil change on with that skid plate.

 

[4WD]

2020 Ford Escape 2.0L
33k miles
in service no idea

out/off: dealer bulk probably 5w-20 and FL-910s

in/on: 6.7 quarts HPL PCEO 5w-30 with Carquest Premium filter

torn and the bottom of the pleats not even glued in. let’s go M+H. can’t wait to hear the defense of this.

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Zerox called and wants their paper back

 

[ZeeOSix]

Like I stated before, even with torn pleats 90% of the oil is being filtered continuously at a high volume rate - so the sump has clean oil in it. Therefore anything getting by is clean oil, unless the engine is failing, or you are flailing the car mercilessly stirring up sludge in the pan bottom.

The tears in some media (sometimes multiple tears on a filter) posted here is going to leak way more than just 10% of the flow. A tear leakage of oil past the media is a constant bypass leak. Some people don't care, most do care if that's going on.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I used the MC 910 for many successful years ( half a million miles), but 2 years ago I started noticing black rubber in the bottom of my oil change pan caused by the over spray on the end caps.

Reason I dropped Motorcraft. Black glue coming off during use ... no thanks as it can go into the engine and cause potential problems, like blocking flow to VVT systems, etc.