First Synthetic PCMO made by.....

[Pablo]

I am very curious about Conoco POLAR START.

I can remember some oils from my younger days. When I first started driving in 1974, oil only came in cans. I member seeing M1 at the Mobil gas station around 1976-1977, I asked the attendant how much - it was about $5/qt. Good thing I didn't stock up!!!

 

[Audi Junkie]

iirc, the first synthetic PCMOs were German. AMZoil had to be changed to AMSoil due to Pennzoil leaning on them for copyright.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
iirc, the first synthetic PCMOs were German. AMZoil had to be changed to AMSoil due to Pennzoil leaning on them for copyright.
Nazis during WWII coal to oil?

 

[Audi Junkie]

Tank oil. TMO?

 

[aquariuscsm]

Here`s a copy and paste off of a Corvette forum:

In 1971 All-Proof now called Redline; followed fourth by Amsoil who packaged and resold a diester-based 10W40 formula from Hatco in 1972 and then Mobil 1, introduced in North America in 1974[1] (with a PAO-based 5W20 formula).

 

[aquariuscsm]

Here`s the link:

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103800

Pretty interesting info.

 

[Pablo]

That's funny - a bulletin board citing wikipedia.....that's not exactly hard proof of anything.

 

[MonumentOiler]

I think that Wiki article cites a place called BITOG so it must be solid. An internet perpetual logic machine.

Internet research is a pain in the rear. Very easy to get five answers to a question that you know has only one correct answer, but sometimes hard to determine which one is correct.

 

[buster]

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/future-motor-oils.57867/

Quote:
“TMP esters of certain cuts from coconut oil and palm kernel oil acids (C-8 and C-10 saturated acids) are more suited to withstand the stresses placed on motor oils. Hatco ester engineers created the frst qualified synthetic motor oil in the United States in the early 1970’s, which was marketed by Amsoil.” Now, we don’t know if this is bad editing or was purposely meant to infer that Hatco had developed a coconut oil esters for the original Amsoil 10W40. But the article does say that Hatco chemists developed the first Amsoil formulation.


I believe Mobil created the PAO in 1949.

 

[jarvk22]

Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
iirc, the first synthetic PCMOs were German. AMZoil had to be changed to AMSoil due to Pennzoil leaning on them for copyright.
The Germans didn't develop the first synthetic engine oil this statement is totally incorrect. The first synthetic engine oil was develop by Fred Kohler working for the Gulf Oil Co. in Plainfield N.J. in 1953. This was PAO based , Mr. Kohler being a chemist also developed the additive package and this oil had no flaws. The problem was cost Gulf thougth it would never sell because of its high price and it never made it to the public market. This oil preformed great in gas and diesel engines.

 

[Lost1]

Originally Posted By: Pablo
That's funny - a bulletin board citing wikipedia.....that's not exactly hard proof of anything.


Originally Posted By: MonumentOiler
I think that Wiki article cites a place called BITOG so it must be solid.



One is about as solid as the other; they're both composed primarily of opinion interspersed with small bits of fact...

 

[BennyL]

i think ya'll oughtta hit the library for this discussion. i want 1 10-page essay on the history of synthetic motor oil, including proper citations and a bibliography.

 

[RI_RS4]

Eon E-11

 

[Steve S]

I used Eon sometime around 1974
I remember there was 2 kinds.

 

[addyguy]

According to the 1976, Popular Science artice, there was Eon E-11, and Eon D-20. At least that's what there are pictures of...

RS4, thats a neat find!

 

[RI_RS4]

Originally Posted By: addyguy
According to the 1976, Popular Science artice, there was Eon E-11, and Eon D-20. At least that's what there are pictures of...

RS4, thats a neat find!


Google is our friend!

 

[Tom NJ]

Pablo is correct - Hatco did the technical development but Al Amatuzio was the driving force behind the effort - his concept and drive made it happen.

Tom NJ

 

[Johnny]

And for all you folks who don't know who Tom NJ is, he retired from Hatco. So he knows what he's talking about.

Happy retirement Tom.

 

[Nickdfresh]

I've read more than once that Standard Oil created the first synthetic motor oil in the 1920s, but that there was little interest in it...

 

[boxcartommie22]

torco and motul are much older then amzoil