Firefox 51.0.1 (32-bit)
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Triple_Se7en
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After downloading Waterfox a few minutes ago, I already ran into a problem. When I right-click on the Firefox taskbar icon, there's a link for Private Windows. When I right-click on the taskbar icon for Waterfox, there's no Private Windows link. I must begin my homepage/webpage in regular windows.
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After a few minutes web-surfing a half dozen sites, Waterfox is faster than Firefox. I also like that it mirrors Firefox. I did not need to adjust or move anything. Everything I used in Firefox remains in Waterfox.
It's definitely a keeper, unlike a few browsers I downloaded in the past and uninstalled them within 24 hours.
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After a few minutes web-surfing a half dozen sites, Waterfox is faster than Firefox. I also like that it mirrors Firefox. I did not need to adjust or move anything. Everything I used in Firefox remains in Waterfox.
It's definitely a keeper, unlike a few browsers I downloaded in the past and uninstalled them within 24 hours.
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
If I reopen Firefox, and view a tab that requires Flash Player, then both show back up with two process lines each.
Sorry for maybe beating a dead horse, here, but what if you launch Firefox and open a tab that doesn't require Flash? Do you see just the one process, or does it show two instances of Firefox and no instances of Flash?
If I reopen Firefox, and view a tab that requires Flash Player, then both show back up with two process lines each.
Sorry for maybe beating a dead horse, here, but what if you launch Firefox and open a tab that doesn't require Flash? Do you see just the one process, or does it show two instances of Firefox and no instances of Flash?
I did give waterfox a try some time back, but quickly returned to FF. I don't recall exactly what made me switch back, but it may have been lack of support for some of the addons I use.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
If I reopen Firefox, and view a tab that requires Flash Player, then both show back up with two process lines each.
Sorry for maybe beating a dead horse, here, but what if you launch Firefox and open a tab that doesn't require Flash? Do you see just the one process, or does it show two instances of Firefox and no instances of Flash?
If I open Firefox and tabs that don't require Flash Player, then there is still two instances of firefox.exe process lines showing in Task Manager. Like I said before, this double process line stuff in Task Manager only started when Firefox went to 51.0.1. Before that, there was only one firefox.exe process going on. I know that because I would monitor the memory usage all the time and shutdown and restart Firefox when it got to about 1.5 Gb so Firefox wouldn't crash on me (which it did for me when memory usage got close to 2 Gb in size).
But if I open a tab that brings Flash Player up in Task Manager, there are now always two Flash Player processes going on.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
If I reopen Firefox, and view a tab that requires Flash Player, then both show back up with two process lines each.
Sorry for maybe beating a dead horse, here, but what if you launch Firefox and open a tab that doesn't require Flash? Do you see just the one process, or does it show two instances of Firefox and no instances of Flash?
If I open Firefox and tabs that don't require Flash Player, then there is still two instances of firefox.exe process lines showing in Task Manager. Like I said before, this double process line stuff in Task Manager only started when Firefox went to 51.0.1. Before that, there was only one firefox.exe process going on. I know that because I would monitor the memory usage all the time and shutdown and restart Firefox when it got to about 1.5 Gb so Firefox wouldn't crash on me (which it did for me when memory usage got close to 2 Gb in size).
But if I open a tab that brings Flash Player up in Task Manager, there are now always two Flash Player processes going on.
Triple_Se7en
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Waterfox 51 is running 64-bit
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Is your FlashPlayer plugin up to date?
Flash hasn't been up to date for a few years now.
Is your FlashPlayer plugin up to date?
Flash hasn't been up to date for a few years now.
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
After downloading Waterfox a few minutes ago, I already ran into a problem. When I right-click on the Firefox taskbar icon, there's a link for Private Windows. When I right-click on the taskbar icon for Waterfox, there's no Private Windows link. I must begin my homepage/webpage in regular windows.
Can you still get a Private Window from the "regular" window's File menu?
After downloading Waterfox a few minutes ago, I already ran into a problem. When I right-click on the Firefox taskbar icon, there's a link for Private Windows. When I right-click on the taskbar icon for Waterfox, there's no Private Windows link. I must begin my homepage/webpage in regular windows.
Can you still get a Private Window from the "regular" window's File menu?
I did a quick Google search, and others are having similar experiences. You may have seen these already, but maybe there are some ideas contained within...
https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+shows+two+instances+in+task+manager
https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+shows+two+instances+in+task+manager
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
Mine is disabled, so that's probably why I'm not seeing multiple FF processes. I have not tried enabling it.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
Mine is disabled, so that's probably why I'm not seeing multiple FF processes. I have not tried enabling it.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
More here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox
I sense they're gradually trying to work up to copying Chrome's "one process per tab, plugin" system.
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
More here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox
I sense they're gradually trying to work up to copying Chrome's "one process per tab, plugin" system.
Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
More here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox
I sense they're gradually trying to work up to copying Chrome's "one process per tab, plugin" system.
Also, whether this can be enabled or not depends on your add-ons. If some of your FF add-ons don't support multiprocess, the whole FF multiprocess capability will be disabled.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
More here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Multiprocess_Firefox
I sense they're gradually trying to work up to copying Chrome's "one process per tab, plugin" system.
Also, whether this can be enabled or not depends on your add-ons. If some of your FF add-ons don't support multiprocess, the whole FF multiprocess capability will be disabled.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Also, whether this can be enabled or not depends on your add-ons. If some of your FF add-ons don't support multiprocess, the whole FF multiprocess capability will be disabled.
My local installation reports that multiprocess is disable, "due to an add-on". I use Ubuntu and there is perpetually an Ubuntu-supplied extension to Firefox installed. I usually just presumed it was for menu and launch bar integration but now I am wonder if, for reasons the developers felt was valid, they've also disabled multiprocess. I guess I'll start disabling my small handful of other extensions one-by-one and re-checking...
Also, whether this can be enabled or not depends on your add-ons. If some of your FF add-ons don't support multiprocess, the whole FF multiprocess capability will be disabled.
My local installation reports that multiprocess is disable, "due to an add-on". I use Ubuntu and there is perpetually an Ubuntu-supplied extension to Firefox installed. I usually just presumed it was for menu and launch bar integration but now I am wonder if, for reasons the developers felt was valid, they've also disabled multiprocess. I guess I'll start disabling my small handful of other extensions one-by-one and re-checking...
Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Also, whether this can be enabled or not depends on your add-ons. If some of your FF add-ons don't support multiprocess, the whole FF multiprocess capability will be disabled.
My local installation reports that multiprocess is disable, "due to an add-on".
My Windows machine shows the same.
Now on my Ubuntu machine it shows as "Enabled," but I'm still only seeing a single firefox process there.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Also, whether this can be enabled or not depends on your add-ons. If some of your FF add-ons don't support multiprocess, the whole FF multiprocess capability will be disabled.
My local installation reports that multiprocess is disable, "due to an add-on".
My Windows machine shows the same.
Now on my Ubuntu machine it shows as "Enabled," but I'm still only seeing a single firefox process there.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I did a quick Google search, and others are having similar experiences. You may have seen these already, but maybe there are some ideas contained within...
https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+shows+two+instances+in+task+manager
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
Mine is disabled, so that's probably why I'm not seeing multiple FF processes. I have not tried enabling it.
Related chat on Mozilla chat board: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3025550
I never played with any settings, it just showed up as two processes when Firefox updated with version 51.0.1. Probably a default setting in v51 if your add-ons allowed the e10s feature.
If it makes Firefox more stable then that's great. It's not using any more memory than before, just splitting up the memory usage between two separate processes.
I did a quick Google search, and others are having similar experiences. You may have seen these already, but maybe there are some ideas contained within...
https://www.google.com/search?q=firefox+shows+two+instances+in+task+manager
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
A multiprocess feature called "e10s":
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1147868
Mine is disabled, so that's probably why I'm not seeing multiple FF processes. I have not tried enabling it.
Related chat on Mozilla chat board: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=3025550
I never played with any settings, it just showed up as two processes when Firefox updated with version 51.0.1. Probably a default setting in v51 if your add-ons allowed the e10s feature.
If it makes Firefox more stable then that's great. It's not using any more memory than before, just splitting up the memory usage between two separate processes.
Speaking of differences between 32-bit and 64-bit versions of FF. When I upgraded to 51.0.1 32-bit, I noticed that images hosted on Photobucket and linked to on various internet forums such as BITOG would not load. So I switched to the 64-bit version, and strangely the problem went away. Weird.
Nope. Spoke too soon. It's still not loading some images from Photobucket. The only way to fix it is to revert back to FF version 50. Not sure why that is...
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Nope. Spoke too soon. It's still not loading some images from Photobucket. The only way to fix it is to revert back to FF version 50. Not sure why that is...
That's probably an ISP problem.
If it was an ISP problem, it wouldn't have worked regardless of version. It works on version 50. Does not work on version 51.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Nope. Spoke too soon. It's still not loading some images from Photobucket. The only way to fix it is to revert back to FF version 50. Not sure why that is...
That's probably an ISP problem.
If it was an ISP problem, it wouldn't have worked regardless of version. It works on version 50. Does not work on version 51.
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