Exotic animals escape Ohio farm, owner found dead

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Originally Posted By: needsducktape
As the WWII memorial for war animals reads:

"They had no choice"


Its funny how humans think: Its our world, everything else just lives in it.

So these animals should have been free to roam around a populated (by humans) area?
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: needsducktape
As the WWII memorial for war animals reads:

"They had no choice"


Its funny how humans think: Its our world, everything else just lives in it.

So these animals should have been free to roam around a populated (by humans) area?


I think if you are able to shoot and kill all the animals, you'd be able to tranquilize some of them. The potential was there but was there every any report of anyone being actively threatened by the animals? I don't think this was an urban area at all.
 
Originally Posted By: needsducktape
As the WWII memorial for war animals reads:

"They had no choice"


Its funny how humans think: Its our world, everything else just lives in it.


While I get your point, I don't think it's relevant to this case. This isn't a matter of going out into the natural habitat of a wild animal then getting upset about the consequences; this is a matter of a guy bringing in wild dangerous animals into a place they don't belong--and what happens when things go bad...

If I get mauled by a grizzly while I'm out on a mountain bike ride, no one is gonna shoot it--nor should they. If I have one in my backyard and he gets out, that's a different story.
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: needsducktape
As the WWII memorial for war animals reads:

"They had no choice"


Its funny how humans think: Its our world, everything else just lives in it.

So these animals should have been free to roam around a populated (by humans) area?



It was a broad comment on our tendency to think we can OWN anything and everything. I think its sad and selfish people can keep these creatures that likely yearn to be free.

Not really a comment on this case specifically. Just on human nature.
 
I wouldn't blame the police for shooting most of them, because it is really the owner who let them loose that really kills them.

When you have 1 or 2 loose, tranquilize them make sense, but 48? It is a race against time before they kill someone.

And for God's sake this owner is no tree huger, he is an egomaniac and lunatic. So don't blame this on animal lovers in general (like you wouldn't blame this on the typical gun owner in general).
 
The cops had to protect the public first off. Having 48 wild animials loose is practically a riot. You get to do a lot of shooting first, questioning later in a riot. We can't expect a rapid response unit for every conceivable scenario that handles bizzare situations with precision. How do they know there aren't 300 animals? Or a school field trip of first graders around the corner?

I'm glad, as must be the cops, that police have guns big enough for not just bank robbers but also marauding non-native PO'd wild animals.
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Yeah I don't really blame the police for shooting the animals with that many loose at one time. They prabbly didn't need to shoot them all but in this situation it was reasobale.
 
It's sad the animals have to die, but let's face it, if you have a family and there's a mountain lion approaching your property...what are you going to do?
 
It's on the national nightly news right now. Dozens of Bengal tigers and also lions and bears carcasses. Jack Hannah was there with the Sheriff at the news briefing. They mentioned trying to tranquilize a tiger and it ran off. The owner's widow requested they help her mass bury the animals on the property. It's looking like the owner was just unstable.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
The cops had to protect the public first off. Having 48 wild animials loose is practically a riot. You get to do a lot of shooting first, questioning later in a riot. We can't expect a rapid response unit for every conceivable scenario that handles bizzare situations with precision. How do they know there aren't 300 animals? Or a school field trip of first graders around the corner?

I'm glad, as must be the cops, that police have guns big enough for not just bank robbers but also marauding non-native PO'd wild animals.
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Well said, thank you. I guarantee you had someone been killed by one of these animals, the Police would have been blamed for not killing the animals sooner.
 
Apparently all the animals were coralled, none escaped except for one monkey unaccounted for and according to the sherriff was likely eaten.

Sorry but I don't accept the position that tranquilizing wasn't a viable option and with zookeeper Jack Hanna on hand to give the go ahead for the mass slaughter that's all the Sherriff politically needed.

I'm not the only one who is critical of Hanna's role in all of this.
 
I saw Hanna on TV last night. He said they had 4 tranq guns to shoot all of these animals and it takes some time for the drug to take effect. The danger was just too great to let these animals loose.
 
The animals were victims of human selfishness. The authorities made the right choice to kill them....it's the nutty owner that blame can only fall upon.
And what's with all you conspiracy people? Do you NEVER believe in anything real? Is nearly everything you have difficulty understanding a conspiracy?
Strange.....almost as strange as the nutty suicide moron.
 
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM

Sorry but I don't accept the position that tranquilizing wasn't a viable option and with zookeeper Jack Hanna on hand to give the go ahead for the mass slaughter that's all the Sherriff politically needed.

You have to be kidding.
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How many tranqualizing guns along with the proper dose were available, before the 48 animals ran off and started eating people. How many trained people on that (1) gun do you think there were?

Perhaps if the (48) animals had neatly sat in line patiently waiting to be tranquilized and then hopefully stayed asleep while the army of specialists arrived with trained people and cages.. might have been viable. But otherwise a pipe dream.

I wonder what your response would have been If your daughter was playing outside and was eaten bc the coops didn't put citizen safety above animal safety.

When the cops think last about public safety they need to become a mailmen.
 
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Originally Posted By: andrewg
The animals were victims of human selfishness. The authorities made the right choice to kill them....it's the nutty owner that blame can only fall upon.
And what's with all you conspiracy people? Do you NEVER believe in anything real? Is nearly everything you have difficulty understanding a conspiracy?
Strange.....almost as strange as the nutty suicide moron.


I agree mostly except I didn't notice any real conspiracies in this thread
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. There was some speculation including from me before all the details emerged. What's so wrong about that? It's not conspiracy theorizing if you accept the facts after they emerge. I agree the owner was off but you never know what kind of pressures he was under or maybe not, not that it's any justification.
 
The animals I understand were corralled, what's all this about running off.
As far as the right doses for tranquilization, under the circumstances, I would fully understand if some animals were killed from overdosing, as an acceptable risk.
 
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The animals I understand were corralled,

By what? There is a video out there showing a tiger knocking a rider off of a full grown elephant.

It had better be one tall and strong fence.
 
They're saying now that the sole remaining missing animal (a monkey) was probably eaten by one of the big cats. How much do you want to bet that this sheriff's department will be pilloried for that as well?
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
The animals were victims of human selfishness. The authorities made the right choice to kill them....it's the nutty owner that blame can only fall upon.
And what's with all you conspiracy people? Do you NEVER believe in anything real? Is nearly everything you have difficulty understanding a conspiracy?
Strange.....almost as strange as the nutty suicide moron.


Conspiracy? not likely, just trying to piece together the story from the bits and pieces the media provide. Have you ever seen "Wag the Dog"? Both our countries don't have hardly a single news company that puts out real news, 95% is regurgitated statements from a PR rep. Some countries have large portions of their history chalk full of conspiracy and the truth may never come to light because we believe what we are told for the most part.

So the owner was a nut job...he'd have to be because little of what was being told made any sense...still doesn't for the most part....

....next
 
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