Everything is made in China

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Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Originally Posted by ford46guy
I bet plenty of new cars on dealer lots have modules, sensors, motors, etc made in China.


See if you can take a tour through any of the big three's parts depts,you'll be surprised that 99.9% of the parts are foreign made. Pretty much only the name is American.


True, but at least if you buy an "American" car you're supporting an American company.
 
Originally Posted by dogememe
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Originally Posted by ford46guy
I bet plenty of new cars on dealer lots have modules, sensors, motors, etc made in China.


See if you can take a tour through any of the big three's parts depts,you'll be surprised that 99.9% of the parts are foreign made. Pretty much only the name is American.


True, but at least if you buy an "American" car you're supporting an American company.


That's why I only buy Ford
No Bail Out Money !!!
 
Originally Posted by dogememe
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Originally Posted by ford46guy
I bet plenty of new cars on dealer lots have modules, sensors, motors, etc made in China.


See if you can take a tour through any of the big three's parts depts,you'll be surprised that 99.9% of the parts are foreign made. Pretty much only the name is American.


True, but at least if you buy an "American" car you're supporting an American company.


If you buy said car brand new which I have only done once in my life. Once a vehicle is used you are supporting USA.
 
I doubt many brand new vehicles have many parts made in China. GM has some because they manufacture there for their consumption.

Older vehicles parts for sure makes complete sense. No one is interested in high priced fuel pump on a 10 year car let alone country of manufacture.
 
Originally Posted by dogememe
Originally Posted by aquariuscsm
Originally Posted by ford46guy
I bet plenty of new cars on dealer lots have modules, sensors, motors, etc made in China.


See if you can take a tour through any of the big three's parts depts,you'll be surprised that 99.9% of the parts are foreign made. Pretty much only the name is American.


True, but at least if you buy an "American" car you're supporting an American company.

Does it matter if they import a ton of stuff? I want to support American jobs, not shareholder profits.

GM makes their crew cabs in Mexico. The 5.7 Hemi is made in Mexico. I have a 2018 F-150 that I am less than thrilled about after a year of ownership and will look to the San Antonio built Tundra as my next truck in 3 to 4 years.
 
Originally Posted by Popsy
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
IN the 50s and 60s , tags read made in Japan

That. Remember when Japan was the China of today ?


Maybe pre-WWII Japan was the China of today, but post war Japan and the China of today could not be more different.
 
Originally Posted by double vanos
The manufacturers will go to the country of lowest cost to make stuff. Soon they'll look for someplace to undercut China. I wonder if they will ever run out of low cost countries to go to. If they do, what then.

Been like that for over a decade. Back in 2002 I was on a trip to China and met someone who worked in an industry where the company was involved in making footwear for sale at American discount stores like WM or Target. Even back then I was informed that manufacturers in Thailand and Vietnam were undercutting their prices. Besides that, it's impossible for China to keep up with demand. My imported clothing comes from all over, including Indonesia, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Vietnam, Jordan, etc. Levi's now has contract manufacturing done in Africa and their jeans (which used to be exclusively made in US factories) now are no longer. They closed down their last jeans factory in the US (in San Francisco no less) which used to make jeans as prototypes and for sale to Japan where they would pay the highest prices. These days I look at my Levi's and they said made in Egypt or even Lesotho. And let's no kid ourselves that a garment worker in the US is going to work a sewing machine better than someone in Africa. Back when I was getting Levi's that said "Made in USA" they would sometimes indicate the exact factory and I think at one time even the name of the particular worker. A lot of these workers were likely immigrants from Latin America or Asia.

However, the big deal with the big name electronics made in China isn't China per se, but the Taiwanese manufacturing companies that set up their factories in mainland China. Foxconn, Quanta, and Asus run a really tight ship.
 
Originally Posted by TurboLuver
Originally Posted by Popsy
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
IN the 50s and 60s , tags read made in Japan

That. Remember when Japan was the China of today ?


Maybe pre-WWII Japan was the China of today, but post war Japan and the China of today could not be more different.




Japan boosted their manufacturing post WW2 especially in the 60's-70's and 80's. They did encounter difficulties during the energy crisis of the 70's and in the late 80's their real estate bubble burst.
 
You can still buy US made clothing, you just have to search smaller manufacturers for it. Autos and auto parts are made everywhere, and China is the largest auto market worldwide, so you 'd expect a lot of production there. Ford and Chrysler still have some US made producs. These days its the imports that have more domestic content. Subaru in Indiana, Toyota in Texas & Kentucky, Honda in Ohio, BMW in SC, Mercedes in Alabama, etc.
 
In the machine tool industry a lot of the good stuff comes from Israel now. China carbide ha I really don't think it's even carbide. I do a lot of machine tool restoration because I like the old American iron in my shop. There really is nothing from the orient that even comes close.
As an example take a look at the monarch 10EE lathes.
Monarch guaranteed them to one millionth. And this was from the 40's. I don't know of any Chinese made stuff that would even come close to that even today that is within reach of a hobby machine shop. My latest restoration is a 1945 Allen #2 vertical pressure feed press drill that was delivered to kaiser industries. They are one of the "7 companies" that built a huge amount of our WW2 merchant ships and was a big player in projects like Hoover dam and coulee. So I have to assume that this machine was worked hard. After disassembly bearing inspection revealed that every single Fafnir bearing could have been reused. I chose to replace the bearings with sealed Fafnir's of the same number. Very expensive because those bearings are now concidered an ultra precision bearing. I think it's just practice to buy American all we can be it new or old
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How would we ever get valuable info like that from a Chinese company 74 years from now. The table alone weighs more than any Chinese press drill that is in the 2hp range. I'm doing my part.
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Originally Posted by CourierDriver
IN the 50s and 60s , tags read made in Japan

In the late 40s and early 50s they read 'Made in occupied Japan' and 'Made in Hong Kong'. One was considered worse than the other but I'm no longer sure which was which.

Quality stuff was made in Canada, the USA or Great Britain.If you look at old tools that have survived, that's where they were made.

I also have some very good French kitchen knives from the 20s and 30s .
 
Das, it's been a long time coming. I was the only bidder at a city auction 5 years ago and it's just been sitting in the corner without a motor gathering dust till last December. I didn't watch my leave balance very well and had to take 18 days of annual leave or loose it. Hand scraped ways on a $100 press drill......awesome.
Zero vibration zero! And the only real sound from it is the fan on the motor and a little belt noise because it use's the big B width belts.
Good stuff well worth the time and effort.
 
Rest assured that 100% of the additives & the great bulk of the base oil used in US engine oils are conceived, developed, manufactured & blended in the US.
 
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My iPhone is made in China. It's by-far the most high tech, well engineered thing I own.

You also better not fly on a newer Boeing or Airbus if you're afraid of China. Chinese parts on those too! So scary!
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Originally Posted by E365
My iPhone is made in China. It's by-far the most high tech, well engineered thing I own.


And it's made by little Chinese girls that are so overworked and so depressed --- that they had do set up catch nets around the top floor their dormitory to prevent them from succeeding in their suicide attempts.
 
Originally Posted by das_peikko
Originally Posted by E365
My iPhone is made in China. It's by-far the most high tech, well engineered thing I own.


And it's made by little Chinese girls that are so overworked and so depressed --- that they had do set up catch nets around the top floor their dormitory to prevent them from succeeding in their suicide attempts.


Apple uses Foxconn. Foxconn also makes stuff for Amazon, Dell, Samsung, among others. Samsung actually admitted to poisoning their workers, in a factory they actually own.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/23/samsung-apologizes-over-sicknesses-deaths-of-some-workers.html
 
I don't bother to boycott anything. The sun rises every morning. I have Chinese made replacement parts in my vehicles, Chinese made tools, power equipment,
Tires etc. I've never had a problem with anything made in China in the last 10 years. YRMV. Your own leaders thought this was a good idea many, many years ago. But it's a moot point. There's not much stuff made in the USA anymore, good or bad.
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Originally Posted by maxdustington
Originally Posted by CourierDriver
IN the 50s and 60s , tags read made in Japan
This blows my mind. I have a set of Fuller wrenches that I bought at the Re-Store. Upon further inspection, I found they are marked KTC. KTC makes high end Japanese tools now, but before that they were likely the lowest bidder on that wrench set.

Japan was the Boomer's China back in the day. When you think about it that way, it's not surprising people preferred American cars to Japanese cars for so long.


When I was growing up , Made in Japan meant it was junk !

I read we / the USA rebuilt much of the industry in Germany & Japan , after WWII . Then it came back to bite us in the behind ! :-(
 
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