EV Subsidies?

The mining of the raw materials being done with Diesel fuel powered equipment was my reference. I consider coal to be fossil fuel for purposes of processing ore and generation of electrical power.

We know people with them, in every case, they traded in a perfectly fine ICE for them.
People trade perfectly fine ICE for ICE too. I fall into no interest in EV to save planet or anything or even money except maintenance over period of time before battery expires. The driveline and cars intrigue me.
 
....and how did that work out?

We dont need to beg anyone for electricity, and it's up to us how it works out.
If you're looking to get me banned it won't work. I'll call it an embarrassing display that would never have happened, and end it.
 
I wonder what will happen to BEV sales (and industry in general) when the subsidies end?
We don't have to wonder since the original tax credits had a sunset provision based upon how many EVs the manufacturer had sold. I believe Tesla surpassed their quota several years ago, yet sales continued to grow.
 
We don't have to wonder since the original tax credits had a sunset provision based upon how many EVs the manufacturer had sold. I believe Tesla surpassed their quota several years ago, yet sales continued to grow.
Tesla rightly judged the EV market as being (at the time) a luxury car market.
With or without credit most buying Teslas would still have bought, however those buying Leafs, Volts and iMievS very much had the credit as a consideration.

To grow the regular consumer car market towards EVs would require intelligent regulation like right to charge, subsidies that target the middle lower income alongside proper and predictable tax policies.

So Going forward EVs being popular as luxury cars may not hold and Tesla will either adapt or fail
 
Tesla rightly judged the EV market as being (at the time) a luxury car market.
With or without credit most buying Teslas would still have bought, however those buying Leafs, Volts and iMievS very much had the credit as a consideration.

To grow the regular consumer car market towards EVs would require intelligent regulation like right to charge, subsidies that target the middle lower income alongside proper and predictable tax policies.

So Going forward EVs being popular as luxury cars may not hold and Tesla will either adapt or fail
Right now, imo they look as they might be the only ones who can make the shift from being the EV Lexus to the EV Toyota. Everyone else is kind of stuck going the other way.
 
We don't have to wonder since the original tax credits had a sunset provision based upon how many EVs the manufacturer had sold. I believe Tesla surpassed their quota several years ago, yet sales continued to grow.
True. Whatever they did with this last one reset it and let Tesla qualify again. Like mentioned, obviously it was designed to boost sales until these companies were solvent. I really don't like the idea of subsidizing anything. In theory it could be great, but taxing money to give out to help pay for something costs money in itself. We hide the final cost somewhat and the transfer itself costs money. Think of the money saved if we actually had a proper cost and one time tax setup instead of washing everything through taxes and subsidies 47 times over.
 
We dont need to beg anyone for electricity, and it's up to us how it works out.
I'm with you on electricity - it is the most domestic "fuel" that we pretty much have entire control over. Oil fueled power plants are only ~1% of domestic electric generation, the remainder is pretty much all domestically sourced outside a very small fraction of natural gas imports.

Yes the grid cannot currently handle 100% adoption of EV but its not an overnight thing, last year EV's accounted for ~6% of sales. The power companies have some time to figure it out.

Speaking of I need to throw some $$$ to invest in Southern Company (my local electric conglomerate) before EV's take off.
 
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I'm with you on electricity - it is the most domestic "fuel" that we pretty much have entire control over. Oil fueled power plants are only ~1% of domestic electric generation, the remainder is pretty much all domestically sourced outside a very small fraction of natural gas imports.

Yes the grid cannot currently handle 100% adoption of EV but its not an overnight thing, last year EV's accounted for ~6% of sales. The power companies have some time to figure it out.

Speaking of I need to throw some $$$ to invest in Southern Company (my local electric conglomerate) before EV's take off.
I invested in Lithium.

And yes. EV is more American Especially given incentives which will push companies to build in America and to source lithium here.
 
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