Leased a zdx (70k MSRP ) for 317 a month 12k miles a year. Love the car as a daily. Looking to purchase it at end if prices in md 20$
EV credit expiring
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I knew I was being an early adopter when we bought the Model 3 in Dec 2018. Higher price, lower tech, etc.
Came to love the car but I shoulda bought the stock!
I think you're referring to the GM electric trucks, since they come in over 9,000 lbs. Yes, they are very heavy. But even with all the weight, their energy efficiency far exceeds that of a gas truck. A Sierra EV is rated at 64 MPGe, while a 2.7l gas Sierra is rated at 17 mpg. I think the weight will come down some eventually, but it won't be a gigantic leap. The bigger improvement will be a reduction in cost for the same capability. Manufacturers are tweaking chemistries to get higher energy density, but are even more focused on trying to reduce reliance on expensive materials so they can reduce battery cost.
Would’ve should have could have
My wife and I know the feeling all too well.
Out of everyone we knew we were the first ones on our windows computer in 1995 Ish ordering stuff online people questioning and giving out our credit card information online, blah blah blah thought we were nuts !
I even bought a desk top computer around 2002 that was named Google!! I bought it because I heard that name Google before and assumed it must be OK
However, later learned it had nothing to do with the upstart search engine company Google so eventually you can imagine that computer was no longer marketed
Fast forward to everything we bought was online searching endlessly using Google eventually Amazon, then Apple devices and all these technologies that we absolutely loved we never bought the stock LOL holy smokes what idiots we were!!! I mean in all our friends and family circles. My wife and I were ahead of everybody.
Oh well … at the same time all things our lives were in wild in huge changes… being newly remarried old spouse’s left behind, after 40 years, took off, move south blah blah blah blah
So we’re OK for the rest of our lives, but my God if we only just bought a little tiny fraction of everything that we were using at the time
No opinion on leasing a car. But before you buy a Cadillac, you need to be aware that they are pulling the same sort of nonsense that BMW started, with charging you a monthly fee to turn on some features, particularly those such as lane keep assist, assisted lane changing and such.
I'm not saying to not buy Cadillac, but you need to go in eyes wide open.
I'm not saying to not buy Cadillac, but you need to go in eyes wide open.
Most have had production stop or have had production cut in half, with no production the quantities available will become extremely constrained and rare
That's a way to try and keep prices up, or possibly PO people and drive them to ICE or Hybrids.
Don't forget to account for the ones that are still coming off lease.
You can probably beat these numbers on Leasehackr. There's some pretty sharp brokers over there. I'd at least check it out. That's where I got my lease deal on my Lightning for $299.96/mo. MSRP $65,590.With the EV credit expiring, I am thinking of reaching out to a dealer or two to see if any lease deals are available. I'm thinking 24 mos, low mileage. Bad idea? Never leased before but that's the only way I'd consider an EV.
The laws of physics limit just how many ions we can move. We will see improvements, but we won't see anything close to parity with fuel powered vehicles with regard to energy density.
Using average grid power in the USA to charge a GMC Sierra for a 100 mile, 75mph highway driver, the powerplant will consume AT LEAST 5 gal (in BTU, energy) worth of diesel fuel or 6 gal of gasoline. Or about 16.6MPG.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Pushing a 9,000 pound pickup truck down the highway is energy intensive, regardless of source.
Your numbers seem off.
Using 2 miles / kWh consumption, traveling 100 miles is 50 kWh.
1 gallon = 33.7 kWh, so 50 kWh = 1.48 gallons of gas.
Not sure how you arrived at 6 gallons of gasoline.
It's not the weight that drives the energy consumption. It's the aerodynamic drag.
Don't need to see parity in energy density. Electrification is over 90% efficient, and ICE throws away more than 60% of the energy content of the fuel.
One needs to verify what they are getting with any vehicle.
The way you are have posted is incorrect. I dont know if you possibly mean another service other than what you mentioned.
Lane assist has been standard on Cadillac since around 2015
Heck it's even free on our 2025 Equinox along with automatic braking, acceleration as part of cruise control.
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Cadillac is killing it in the luxury EV market. Let's hope GM doesn't screw it up. They are in a good place being their buyers would be more upscale, the car and the buyer most likely would not qualify for the expiring tax credits anyway. Check out the "V" 615Hp might be overkill but a lot of fun in a luxury car if you can afford it.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a65541681/tested-2026-cadillac-lyriq-v/
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F=m*a. Acceleration also requires energy. Getting that thing up to speed at every red light requires energy resulting in poor “ gas mileage” . I go agree that people should get used to the miles per kWh. 40 mpg is awesome. 10 mpg sucks. 2 miles per kWh sucks for an EV even though is cheaper than gas for the same vehicle. 5 miles per kwhr is common for smaller EVs.
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In local driving the vehicle can take advantage of regenerative braking. Aerodynamic drag is also far reduced. Driving at low speeds is how GM got over 1,000 miles out of single charge. So miles / kWh more than doubled by reducing speed.
While the efficiency is lower than most other EVs, its far superior to ICE alternatives. For someone that needs to retain the ability to tow, it makes sense. My bumper pull camper is 7,000 lbs. The Rivian and Lightning would barely exceed 100 miles with it hooked up. The BT1 platform vehicles could probably get it to 200 miles.
Numbers are right on. Try charging an EV with a 40% efficient engine diesel generator (conventional large type). A model S comes out at 26mpg or so.
Average US grid efficiency is 33%.
Using our very best combined cycle power plants, which can achieve 60%++ efficiency at the generators terminals (never higher than 54% at the power plant fence) we still must contend with grid losses, charger losses and the round trip battery losses (charge-discharge). In the mix but not the numbers are motor and controller losses.
The idea that the dashboard says 600 Watt hours per mile at 75mph, does not mean the power plant must produce only 600 watt hours to push the vehicle a mile. The losses add up.
Although this 30 second video is a bit snarky, it illustrates the point well.
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I understand the point you're making, but it's disingenuous to claim that these vehicles are all consuming this much energy to charge when it's highly dependent on the source of the power, which in turn varies by region. We're not powering the grid with diesel generators, as most of the grid is some combination of natural gas and renewables. In addition ,the renewable mix is increasing since that is that is the cheapest source of power. So EVs are getting even cleaner over time. The majority of EVs owners charge at home, because the cost savings for fueling at home are substantial. My power is primarily solar and 90% of my miles are powered by electricity I consume at home.
You seem to be under the presumption that I purchase EVs to maximize energy efficiency. I honestly don't care. I buy them because I save a lot of money on fuel and can mash the throttle and enjoy the instant torque without worrying about paying for it later at the fuel pump. I'm also getting older and don't have the time or patience for routine ICE repairs. So no, I've never done the math to account for grid power generation losses because my pockets only see what I pay for fuel and maintenance and electric was much cheaper than gas.
That doesn't seem accurate. I think my Bolt insurance is less than $100/month.
Has anybody been watching the news on CATL's new sodium batteries? Apparently less than half the price of LFP.
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