EV charging example costs more than it would to fill up a premium fuel car
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And you don’t think VW’s prices increased after the fine to pay for it? Stockholders take precedence over customers every day of the year.
Every “free” station is paid for by those in the customer chain of that charger. If it’s a supermarket, the customer is paying extra. If it’s a government charger, the taxpayer is paying extra. If it’s an apartment, all of the tenants are paying extra. It’s an absolute fact that every single one of those “free” charging stations are passing those costs onto its revenue base, however that works out.
Yes, because your fuel costs are also high. It's the same story here (although our electricity is cheaper than that).
That goes for any promotion. Everything a private business gives away, everything a private business puts on sale its the cost of doing business. Every sale item you buy comes with strings attached to get people in the store.. It's a free country pick and choose companies are free to give things away or put them on sale.
People in here look for discounts even on automobiles, anytime one is marked down to make a sale, someone else pays. Its life
Agree that information would be nice but there is no doubt he is telling the truth for that area. It's even been confirmed right in this thread by owners of EVs. It can get costly and it's not based on just kWh. Which if you read through all the posts. I too learned from this.
I mean, really now.
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The earlier post #14 shows pge has other rate plans, 31 cents/ kwh at certain times on the ev plan. Pge is in California and not cheap.
Still higher than many other states pay. Some pay 10 cents/ kwh, even less. Ev makes a lot of sense to many people compared to gas in those places, and of course it depends on how much the vehicle uses, and how the driver uses it.
This is why most of us only want to charge at home. With public charging it’s sometimes a necessity, but that’s basically a convenience charge.
All the benefit cost wise is charging at home. I wouldn’t own one otherwise. I don’t have a problem taking trips in it, but it wouldn’t be my first selection if I was doing that more often than not.
Wow, lotsa opinions here.... Let's look at the numbers and get to the truth... Well, we can't. I don't think the video showed the numbers, only the totals. So it is a worthless puff piece. 2 different vehicles. No energy costs per unit. Charging an EV past 80% is really inefficient. Facts my ....
If I couldn't charge at home, I wouldn't own an EV. Charging at peak price hours is really dumb; why would anyone do that unless they had to? I know a few people who don't charge at home, but they often charge at work for a subsidized rate or even free.
My use case is extreme; I had a long term plan to minimize recurring costs; electricity is freakin' expensive around here (PG&E monopoly and CPUC). So I did something about it by springing for solar. Adding the EV to the mix gets more value out of the asset.
If you regularly drive more than 100 miles per day and need to use Superchargers, perhaps a 4 banger whatever makes more sense.
Around here gas shot up overnight. If you can find rag under $4.50 per gallon buy it.
If I couldn't charge at home, I wouldn't own an EV. Charging at peak price hours is really dumb; why would anyone do that unless they had to? I know a few people who don't charge at home, but they often charge at work for a subsidized rate or even free.
My use case is extreme; I had a long term plan to minimize recurring costs; electricity is freakin' expensive around here (PG&E monopoly and CPUC). So I did something about it by springing for solar. Adding the EV to the mix gets more value out of the asset.
If you regularly drive more than 100 miles per day and need to use Superchargers, perhaps a 4 banger whatever makes more sense.
Around here gas shot up overnight. If you can find rag under $4.50 per gallon buy it.
If you're not going to charge at home, don't bother getting one.
It just says "loading instagram" for me.
But at the non-membership rate at my local Electrify America, to charge my Mach-E from 0-100 would cost $37.10, theoretically. .53 per KWH times battery capacity of 70KWH.
That said we have not done any DCFC since July, 100% at home. Even with small battery AWD (worst range combo), it's enough at 85% to drive around all day and to nearby cities and back. It was so much cooler this summer than last summer here in Central Texas that my electric bill went down as compared to last year even with the addition of an EV. I think we'll really have to average things out over time to get a true number as to cost.
Wow. I don't schedule our charging, but I probably would if I had those kind of overnight rates. And in the afternoon, I'd have to turn up the AC to 78 or 80.
Everything and much more? Like cheap charging at home, awesome acceleration and extreme quietness? The awesomeness is running over the edge of my cup.
What if there are other motivations? "We want people with high disposable income like EV owners to visit our downtown for shopping so we're going to put in free chargers"
Paying the higher price is worth every penny paid over running out of gas.
Interesting maybe try later? Or a different device? I just went back and checked, and it literally comes up as soon as my finger touches the screen to start playing it.
This might be a good place to post a photo I took of a BC Hyro charger.
Multiply by 0.7 to get US dollars. Notice there two charge speeds. Enjoy.
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Multiply by 0.7 to get US dollars. Notice there two charge speeds. Enjoy.
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$4.7/gal vs 30c/kwh at midnight. Your choice.
What happens when your EV is dead at noon and you’ve got places to go? 65+c/kWh
Good point.What happens when your EV is dead at noon and you’ve got places to go? 65+c/kWh
When you own an EV, you learn the ropes. Range anxiety will drive you bananas.
1st, you charge at night; they have schedulers.
2nd, if you are gonna go further the next day, charge to 90% or higher.
But yes, you will need to Supercharge from time to time. The best way is to charge to destination, not to full. So you are low, say 10 to 20%. Charge for 10 minutes and get 50 miles (or whatever) and get to your destination where it's cheaper. Remember, a low state of charge offers turbo charging efficiency.
The few times I Supercharge are usually fun; grab a Starbucks, sandwich, check emails (or BOB). or just walk around. 10 minutes goes by like nuthin'.
I get like 245 miles at 80%. I let it get down to 100 miles sometimes during the week. Charging is sooooo simple.
Again, if you are driving far all the time, think twice before buying that speedy M3P.
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