Even at my rates?It's still a lot cheaper than fuel, assuming you charge at home.
Even at my rates?It's still a lot cheaper than fuel, assuming you charge at home.
And you don’t think VW’s prices increased after the fine to pay for it? Stockholders take precedence over customers every day of the year.My state has free chargers that were paid for by the VW dieselgate settlement. When they'll stop being free is up in the air but it hasn't happened yet.
Every “free” station is paid for by those in the customer chain of that charger. If it’s a supermarket, the customer is paying extra. If it’s a government charger, the taxpayer is paying extra. If it’s an apartment, all of the tenants are paying extra. It’s an absolute fact that every single one of those “free” charging stations are passing those costs onto its revenue base, however that works out.So the fact the building owner /management offers free charging to tenants (and the public for that matter) makes me a leech?
Or using a charger at a grocer that places free charging stations in their parking lot makes me a leech?
Building management / ownership pays the electric bill. The electricity is not free. The taxpayer certainly is not paying that bill either.
Ownership has made its choices on what they do to keep tenants happy and to draw in customers.
Frankly, not using free services in that case would be the "interesting" choice...
That goes for any promotion. Everything a private business gives away, everything a private business puts on sale its the cost of doing business. Every sale item you buy comes with strings attached to get people in the store.. It's a free country pick and choose companies are free to give things away or put them on sale.Every “free” station is paid for by those in the customer chain of that charger. If it’s a supermarket, the customer is paying extra. ..
Agree that information would be nice but there is no doubt he is telling the truth for that area. It's even been confirmed right in this thread by owners of EVs. It can get costly and it's not based on just kWh. Which if you read through all the posts. I too learned from this.Where is the station, the rate for each, $/kwh, $/gallon premium, and he talks too fast like a salesman, skipping facts. Not to mention how they were driven for the 180 miles. If the Cadillac uses 1 kwh to go 3 miles that’s 60 kwh over 180 miles. If it’s 40 cents per kwh it comes to $24.
Electricity cost is so high here in Ca an electric car cant be cheap to charge
This is why most of us only want to charge at home. With public charging it’s sometimes a necessity, but that’s basically a convenience charge.Yeah, Im shocked but not completely as the station themselves sets the cost of charging. Being skeptical I kind of wonder what these stand alone charging stations will charge without nearby competition as EV become more popular. Most people who live in a home with only one EV will charge at home, assuming they arent taking trips.
With roughly half the country living in condos or apartments or families with more than one EV, for many charging at home is not an option.
Really ?
Im shocked at what I am seeing, is this because this particular charging station is charging an outrageous kWh rate?
I dont know, sounds like this guy is pretty straight up. Yeah, I get it, social media and he could have presented more information such as gas price and kWh price... but either way.
What gives?
VERY relevant as far as I am concerned.
Really ?
Im shocked at what I am seeing, is this because this particular charging station is charging an outrageous kWh rate?
I dont know, sounds like this guy is pretty straight up. Yeah, I get it, social media and he could have presented more information such as gas price and kWh price... but either way.
What gives?
VERY relevant as far as I am concerned.
Wow. I don't schedule our charging, but I probably would if I had those kind of overnight rates. And in the afternoon, I'd have to turn up the AC to 78 or 80.But his point is the cost to charge at home in California is very high. Let's say the Caddy has a 140kWh battery that is fully depleted, even if you schedule it to charge overnight, that's $43.40. If you charge it between 4 and 9pm it's $86.80.
Ontario has ultra-low overnight rates for charging EV's of $0.028/kWh, but of course the on-peak price is higher, but still about 1/3rd of Cali's, less if you factor in the exchange rate:
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Everything and much more? Like cheap charging at home, awesome acceleration and extreme quietness? The awesomeness is running over the edge of my cup.It did not take more than 2 brain cells to figure out once they get more of these vehicles on the road people are going to get bent over but good and proper without so much as a little kiss. The people that support this crap and the politicians that go along with this lunacy get everything they deserve and much more. The problem is those of us that knew better got the Arschkarte right along with em. JMHO
What if there are other motivations? "We want people with high disposable income like EV owners to visit our downtown for shopping so we're going to put in free chargers"Nothing is free, especially energy. Those people using “free” chargers are leeches, perfectly fine with the local area charging their taxpayers and transferring their wealth thru subsidized charging. It’s a despicable practice along with all the other ways this is perpetrated.
Paying the higher price is worth every penny paid over running out of gas.Plenty of times I've seen a lone gas station with higher prices, Free market so they can charge what they want. Might not sell much if high.
It just says "loading instagram" for me
$4.7/gal vs 30c/kwh at midnight. Your choice.Electricity cost is so high here in Ca an electric car cant be cheap to charge
What happens when your EV is dead at noon and you’ve got places to go? 65+c/kWh$4.7/gal vs 30c/kwh at midnight. Your choice.
Good point.What happens when your EV is dead at noon and you’ve got places to go? 65+c/kWh![]()