Messing around with Edge I find text clearer, sharper brighter than Chrome. Also running tools like peacemaker Chrome is supposedly faster on my system, but to the eye seems like Edge is. Anyone else notice this? Is there a flag in Chrome I can set?
Edge vs Chrome
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If your display/font scaling settings in Windows isn't 100% which is true with newer higher resolutions monitors then newer versions of Chrome will have it's own scaling on top of what Windows says. Edge still displays pixels as is and what's defined by Windows. I'm a web developer and noticed that change in Chrome past two-three months. Seems like they are making Chrome follow mobile's more stringent rule of following dpi rules for screens. There is the about:flags settings, but you can get lost there.
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I like Google ... don't get me wrong.
BUT ...
I'm a gMail user. The way Google works, they want to integrate all their data accumulation assets into one huge ball of spyware. So, since I use gMail, I can't use Chrome, because that is just giving Google permission to spy more efficiently.
If I didn't use gMail, I could justifiably consider using Chrome. But with Google, you have to choose one and only one tool, and forsake the rest, or submit to Big Brother And Like It. You decide.
So in a question of Edge vs Chrome, it's not even a race. Edge wins by default.
NOTE: I don't use Google search either, although I do use a non-tracking search engine that itself gets it's search results from Google. Like I said ... choose one, forsake the rest.
BUT ...
I'm a gMail user. The way Google works, they want to integrate all their data accumulation assets into one huge ball of spyware. So, since I use gMail, I can't use Chrome, because that is just giving Google permission to spy more efficiently.
If I didn't use gMail, I could justifiably consider using Chrome. But with Google, you have to choose one and only one tool, and forsake the rest, or submit to Big Brother And Like It. You decide.
So in a question of Edge vs Chrome, it's not even a race. Edge wins by default.
NOTE: I don't use Google search either, although I do use a non-tracking search engine that itself gets it's search results from Google. Like I said ... choose one, forsake the rest.
Edge would be using Windows' native display settings and User Interface libraries; Chrome - being cross-platform - uses its own for the sake of OS portability.
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
I'm a gMail user. The way Google works, they want to integrate all their data accumulation assets into one huge ball of spyware. So, since I use gMail, I can't use Chrome, because that is just giving Google permission to spy more efficiently.
Use Chrome but don't sign into it for data sync. Sign out of your accounts when not in use and use Incognito Windows.
Neither browser is for you if you value your security or privacy to a degree beyond the normal consumer. I'd wager Microsoft is gathering *way* more data on you through your Edge use - being tied in so tightly with the rest of the **entire** OS (ie. you thought using TWO Google products exposed more information?!).
If you want to maintain anonymity for real: Never use Windows (use TAILS OS), use Tor, use VPN.
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
I'm a gMail user. The way Google works, they want to integrate all their data accumulation assets into one huge ball of spyware. So, since I use gMail, I can't use Chrome, because that is just giving Google permission to spy more efficiently.
Use Chrome but don't sign into it for data sync. Sign out of your accounts when not in use and use Incognito Windows.
Neither browser is for you if you value your security or privacy to a degree beyond the normal consumer. I'd wager Microsoft is gathering *way* more data on you through your Edge use - being tied in so tightly with the rest of the **entire** OS (ie. you thought using TWO Google products exposed more information?!).
If you want to maintain anonymity for real: Never use Windows (use TAILS OS), use Tor, use VPN.
After reading your post I decided to launch Edge and the text does look much more crisper on my 4K monitor with text scaling set to 100%. Chrome's text looked a bit blurry but manageable without resorting to text zoom or increasing scaling size.
Originally Posted By: uc50ic4more
Edge would be using Windows' native display settings and User Interface libraries; Chrome - being cross-platform - uses its own for the sake of OS portability.
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
I'm a gMail user. The way Google works, they want to integrate all their data accumulation assets into one huge ball of spyware. So, since I use gMail, I can't use Chrome, because that is just giving Google permission to spy more efficiently.
Use Chrome but don't sign into it for data sync. Sign out of your accounts when not in use and use Incognito Windows.
Neither browser is for you if you value your security or privacy to a degree beyond the normal consumer. I'd wager Microsoft is gathering *way* more data on you through your Edge use - being tied in so tightly with the rest of the **entire** OS (ie. you thought using TWO Google products exposed more information?!).
If you want to maintain anonymity for real: Never use Windows (use TAILS OS), use Tor, use VPN.
Yup, this win 10 laptop seems to know an awful lot about me. Suggests things it shouldn't know about if it were just an OS. I am going along with the tiles, news, etc. for now. Its ok for this particular laptop. Im impressed with the startup speed.
I use chrome because I have an android phone. So my photos, gmail, etc are everywhere. I'm comfortable enough now that I know where all the google settings are to turn off tracking. How to use flags, stop flickering, etc. But Microsoft's tracking abilities are a mystery so far...
Microsoft keeps trying something new, failing, then trying something else. Why I'm reluctant to use edge.
Edge would be using Windows' native display settings and User Interface libraries; Chrome - being cross-platform - uses its own for the sake of OS portability.
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
I'm a gMail user. The way Google works, they want to integrate all their data accumulation assets into one huge ball of spyware. So, since I use gMail, I can't use Chrome, because that is just giving Google permission to spy more efficiently.
Use Chrome but don't sign into it for data sync. Sign out of your accounts when not in use and use Incognito Windows.
Neither browser is for you if you value your security or privacy to a degree beyond the normal consumer. I'd wager Microsoft is gathering *way* more data on you through your Edge use - being tied in so tightly with the rest of the **entire** OS (ie. you thought using TWO Google products exposed more information?!).
If you want to maintain anonymity for real: Never use Windows (use TAILS OS), use Tor, use VPN.
Yup, this win 10 laptop seems to know an awful lot about me. Suggests things it shouldn't know about if it were just an OS. I am going along with the tiles, news, etc. for now. Its ok for this particular laptop. Im impressed with the startup speed.
I use chrome because I have an android phone. So my photos, gmail, etc are everywhere. I'm comfortable enough now that I know where all the google settings are to turn off tracking. How to use flags, stop flickering, etc. But Microsoft's tracking abilities are a mystery so far...
Microsoft keeps trying something new, failing, then trying something else. Why I'm reluctant to use edge.
I use macOS Sierra and Windows 10 on the same Dell 2560X1440 display. Apple does a better job with font rendering. Those who value privacy should check out the Opera browser. It offers a built in VPN.
I was using Firefox since it was Netscape. But the Android and Google forced me away. Firefox Mobile is horrible IMO. This fresh article seems to imply Edge is fast, which it seems like to me also. http://www.zdnet.com/article/whats-2017s-fastest-windows-10-web-browser/
I like Edge more, on a battery powered device it has been tested to be less power hungry.
I use a few browsers. I use Edge only for important stuff.
Chrome for "junk" stuff. (includes forums)
Firefox, Opera or Yandex for news, searching, forums, all general stuff.
Depending on the device, Opera & Firefox has built in ad blocking and stops annoying autoplay [censored]. Stuff that drives me nuts, Yandex has a nice clean look to it. There is also Adblock Plus I use on some browsers ...
My feelings are I avoid Chrome as much as possible and like trying different browsers. Also for security it doesnt hurt, if you do any online financial stuff to use one browser exclusively for just that purpose.
Me avoiding Chrome is maybe more of a political statement then anything and just so big why not help others out. Also again, not the best and even though its good, every browser offers something unique that others may like more then others, just like motoroil *L*.
Chrome also uses more battery power then Edge, Firefox, Opera etc, again, depends on device but if you search there is always someone doing a power usage test.
Last week I just installed Opera Mini on my Android phone, kind of neat and no autoplay plus ad blocking, also trying Dolphin (its fast) not to crazy with Firefox on Android but still playing around. I dumped the Chrome on my phone.
BTW - if looking to clean up your computer download free bleachbit.org REALLY sweet program, wipes out what ever you want it too. Really amazing all the garbage it cleans up, super fast too.
I listened to this guy on talk radio, download is free, NO CATCH AT ALL. Like some free stuff, you can donate if you wish.
I think this is what Hillary used too.
I use a few browsers. I use Edge only for important stuff.
Chrome for "junk" stuff. (includes forums)
Firefox, Opera or Yandex for news, searching, forums, all general stuff.
Depending on the device, Opera & Firefox has built in ad blocking and stops annoying autoplay [censored]. Stuff that drives me nuts, Yandex has a nice clean look to it. There is also Adblock Plus I use on some browsers ...
My feelings are I avoid Chrome as much as possible and like trying different browsers. Also for security it doesnt hurt, if you do any online financial stuff to use one browser exclusively for just that purpose.
Me avoiding Chrome is maybe more of a political statement then anything and just so big why not help others out. Also again, not the best and even though its good, every browser offers something unique that others may like more then others, just like motoroil *L*.
Chrome also uses more battery power then Edge, Firefox, Opera etc, again, depends on device but if you search there is always someone doing a power usage test.
Last week I just installed Opera Mini on my Android phone, kind of neat and no autoplay plus ad blocking, also trying Dolphin (its fast) not to crazy with Firefox on Android but still playing around. I dumped the Chrome on my phone.
BTW - if looking to clean up your computer download free bleachbit.org REALLY sweet program, wipes out what ever you want it too. Really amazing all the garbage it cleans up, super fast too.
I listened to this guy on talk radio, download is free, NO CATCH AT ALL. Like some free stuff, you can donate if you wish.
I think this is what Hillary used too.
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
BTW - if looking to clean up your computer download free bleachbit.org REALLY sweet program, wipes out what ever you want it too. Really amazing all the garbage it cleans up, super fast too.
I listened to this guy on talk radio, download is free, NO CATCH AT ALL. Like some free stuff, you can donate if you wish.
I think this is what Hillary used too.
Going to try it. You like it better than CCleaner?
BTW - if looking to clean up your computer download free bleachbit.org REALLY sweet program, wipes out what ever you want it too. Really amazing all the garbage it cleans up, super fast too.
I listened to this guy on talk radio, download is free, NO CATCH AT ALL. Like some free stuff, you can donate if you wish.
I think this is what Hillary used too.
Going to try it. You like it better than CCleaner?
Interesting, the crispness and sharpness of Chrome is easily influenced by how I angle the laptop. Doesn't seem to matter with edge.
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I use macOS Sierra and Windows 10 on the same Dell 2560X1440 display. Apple does a better job with font rendering. Those who value privacy should check out the Opera browser. It offers a built in VPN.
The "P" part of their built-in VPN is apparently subject to some skepticism.
I use macOS Sierra and Windows 10 on the same Dell 2560X1440 display. Apple does a better job with font rendering. Those who value privacy should check out the Opera browser. It offers a built in VPN.
The "P" part of their built-in VPN is apparently subject to some skepticism.
I read the CNET review of Bleachbit. Although a review of an older version, one line caught my attention, where they said Bleachbit removed some 3,000 file in a few seconds.
There is no way a computer system, regardless of whether it's a Windows OS machine or otherwise, can delete any significant number of files in a few seconds. What it does is remove the index to those files so that they cannot be addressed in the usual way; the actual data remains. A forensic audit of the hard drive will easily be able to recover all of them.
A reasonable analogy is if you had a book and you ripped out the index. A computer can't find the rest of the book's pages without an index. A forensic recovery tool (there are many) that recovers "deleted" data from a hard drive would be like you looking at the book and realizing you can still read all the pages, there just is no index. In other words, the information has not been deleted at all.
You need to secure delete files if you want them actually gone. This takes some time, as the data must be written over with random data (1's and 0's) and since the residual magnetic information can be recovered even after this step, it need to be done a number of times. A few dozen is considered secure.
With Solid State Drives, it's even more difficult to delete data. SSDs can only re-write the same area a fixed number of times before the drive fails. Because of this, they all employ special data management, so that data is written to the entire drive space, rather than repeatedly to a certain area. This makes re-writing that space that held the data difficult or impossible; the data management interferes. That is not to say it's impossible, but in that case you have to realize you are significantly reducing the life of the drive.
If you want security, you must use "old school" (and slower) magnetic technology hard disk drives and secure delete by re-writing over the original data many times with random data.
What a tool like BleachBIt will do, however, is prevent the reading of these cached and cookie files by whatever program wrote them in the first place. In that respect it offers some security. It's just that if you want those files gone, gone, gone, you have to jump through far more hoops than a quick three second delete.
There is no way a computer system, regardless of whether it's a Windows OS machine or otherwise, can delete any significant number of files in a few seconds. What it does is remove the index to those files so that they cannot be addressed in the usual way; the actual data remains. A forensic audit of the hard drive will easily be able to recover all of them.
A reasonable analogy is if you had a book and you ripped out the index. A computer can't find the rest of the book's pages without an index. A forensic recovery tool (there are many) that recovers "deleted" data from a hard drive would be like you looking at the book and realizing you can still read all the pages, there just is no index. In other words, the information has not been deleted at all.
You need to secure delete files if you want them actually gone. This takes some time, as the data must be written over with random data (1's and 0's) and since the residual magnetic information can be recovered even after this step, it need to be done a number of times. A few dozen is considered secure.
With Solid State Drives, it's even more difficult to delete data. SSDs can only re-write the same area a fixed number of times before the drive fails. Because of this, they all employ special data management, so that data is written to the entire drive space, rather than repeatedly to a certain area. This makes re-writing that space that held the data difficult or impossible; the data management interferes. That is not to say it's impossible, but in that case you have to realize you are significantly reducing the life of the drive.
If you want security, you must use "old school" (and slower) magnetic technology hard disk drives and secure delete by re-writing over the original data many times with random data.
What a tool like BleachBIt will do, however, is prevent the reading of these cached and cookie files by whatever program wrote them in the first place. In that respect it offers some security. It's just that if you want those files gone, gone, gone, you have to jump through far more hoops than a quick three second delete.
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Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
I read the CNET review of Bleachbit. Although a review of an older version, one line caught my attention, where they said Bleachbit removed some 3,000 file in a few seconds.
There is no way a computer system, regardless of whether it's a Windows OS machine or otherwise, can delete any significant number of files in a few seconds. What it does is remove the index to those files so that they cannot be addressed in the usual way; the actual data remains. A forensic audit of the hard drive will easily be able to recover all of them.
A reasonable analogy is if you had a book and you ripped out the index. A computer can't find the rest of the book's pages without an index. A forensic recovery tool (there are many) that recovers "deleted" data from a hard drive would be like you looking at the book and realizing you can still read all the pages, there just is no index. In other words, the information has not been deleted at all.
You need to secure delete files if you want them actually gone. This takes some time, as the data must be written over with random data (1's and 0's) and since the residual magnetic information can be recovered even after this step, it need to be done a number of times. A few dozen is considered secure.
With Solid State Drives, it's even more difficult to delete data. SSDs can only re-write the same area a fixed number of times before the drive fails. Because of this, they all employ special data management, so that data is written to the entire drive space, rather than repeatedly to a certain area. This makes re-writing that space that held the data difficult or impossible; the data management interferes. That is not to say it's impossible, but in that case you have to realize you are significantly reducing the life of the drive.
If you want security, you must use "old school" (and slower) magnetic technology hard disk drives and secure delete by re-writing over the original data many times with random data.
What a tool like BleachBIt will do, however, is prevent the reading of these cached and cookie files by whatever program wrote them in the first place. In that respect it offers some security. It's just that if you want those files gone, gone, gone, you have to jump through far more hoops than a quick three second delete.
We are talking about cleaning up your web browsers and cleaning up the hard drive.
We are not talking about wiping hard drives clean like Hillary did so the FBI cant retrieve them.
ANY FILE you ever delete, like for an example, a photo you hate, on your computer is still on your computer, your computer just no longer recognizes that it exists, then when the "space" is needed it simply writes right over it because it doesnt know it is there.
If you wish to TRULY wipe your hard drive clean to avoid detection for some unknown reason Bleachbit gives you that option and warns you that "this will take a long time"
Im not sure of the reason for your post. I think if you researched and actually used and learned the program you would understand, your commenting on something you have not used.
Again, we are talking about improving the speed of your computer, not avoiding detection by the FBI.
But Bleachbit DOES give you that option and Hillary used it.
I read the CNET review of Bleachbit. Although a review of an older version, one line caught my attention, where they said Bleachbit removed some 3,000 file in a few seconds.
There is no way a computer system, regardless of whether it's a Windows OS machine or otherwise, can delete any significant number of files in a few seconds. What it does is remove the index to those files so that they cannot be addressed in the usual way; the actual data remains. A forensic audit of the hard drive will easily be able to recover all of them.
A reasonable analogy is if you had a book and you ripped out the index. A computer can't find the rest of the book's pages without an index. A forensic recovery tool (there are many) that recovers "deleted" data from a hard drive would be like you looking at the book and realizing you can still read all the pages, there just is no index. In other words, the information has not been deleted at all.
You need to secure delete files if you want them actually gone. This takes some time, as the data must be written over with random data (1's and 0's) and since the residual magnetic information can be recovered even after this step, it need to be done a number of times. A few dozen is considered secure.
With Solid State Drives, it's even more difficult to delete data. SSDs can only re-write the same area a fixed number of times before the drive fails. Because of this, they all employ special data management, so that data is written to the entire drive space, rather than repeatedly to a certain area. This makes re-writing that space that held the data difficult or impossible; the data management interferes. That is not to say it's impossible, but in that case you have to realize you are significantly reducing the life of the drive.
If you want security, you must use "old school" (and slower) magnetic technology hard disk drives and secure delete by re-writing over the original data many times with random data.
What a tool like BleachBIt will do, however, is prevent the reading of these cached and cookie files by whatever program wrote them in the first place. In that respect it offers some security. It's just that if you want those files gone, gone, gone, you have to jump through far more hoops than a quick three second delete.
We are talking about cleaning up your web browsers and cleaning up the hard drive.
We are not talking about wiping hard drives clean like Hillary did so the FBI cant retrieve them.
ANY FILE you ever delete, like for an example, a photo you hate, on your computer is still on your computer, your computer just no longer recognizes that it exists, then when the "space" is needed it simply writes right over it because it doesnt know it is there.
If you wish to TRULY wipe your hard drive clean to avoid detection for some unknown reason Bleachbit gives you that option and warns you that "this will take a long time"
Im not sure of the reason for your post. I think if you researched and actually used and learned the program you would understand, your commenting on something you have not used.
Again, we are talking about improving the speed of your computer, not avoiding detection by the FBI.
But Bleachbit DOES give you that option and Hillary used it.
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
BTW - if looking to clean up your computer download free bleachbit.org REALLY sweet program, wipes out what ever you want it too. Really amazing all the garbage it cleans up, super fast too.
I listened to this guy on talk radio, download is free, NO CATCH AT ALL. Like some free stuff, you can donate if you wish.
I think this is what Hillary used too.
Going to try it. You like it better than CCleaner?
Honestly, I never used any type of cleaner, then heard about Bleachbit from the founder on talk radio.
I always simply cleared my browsers when they got slower, also tmp files etc.
Bleachbit makes it simple and fast. I let it delete EVERYTHING in my browsers except passwords.
Be careful if you allow it do do more then just your browser stuff, you MAY or may not allow it to delete a recent update to something, you can pick and choose what you want.
I can say it has refreshed all our computers, talk about WOW factor when you see the 500+ MB to 1 gb deleted on each computer.
Originally Posted By: alarmguy
BTW - if looking to clean up your computer download free bleachbit.org REALLY sweet program, wipes out what ever you want it too. Really amazing all the garbage it cleans up, super fast too.
I listened to this guy on talk radio, download is free, NO CATCH AT ALL. Like some free stuff, you can donate if you wish.
I think this is what Hillary used too.
Going to try it. You like it better than CCleaner?
Honestly, I never used any type of cleaner, then heard about Bleachbit from the founder on talk radio.
I always simply cleared my browsers when they got slower, also tmp files etc.
Bleachbit makes it simple and fast. I let it delete EVERYTHING in my browsers except passwords.
Be careful if you allow it do do more then just your browser stuff, you MAY or may not allow it to delete a recent update to something, you can pick and choose what you want.
I can say it has refreshed all our computers, talk about WOW factor when you see the 500+ MB to 1 gb deleted on each computer.
After bouncing between Edge and Chrome for a couple of days I say Edge seems to be the better browser for me. Edge can decode and play 8K videos with no stuttering or frame drops taking advantage of GPU hardware acceleration vs Chrome where it uses CPU power to decode 8K video (but uses GPU for 4k and other resolutions.) Chrome has a speedy and adaptive interface which makes browsing the internet much easier. I can press b and enter in the omnibox and it takes me to the BITOG forums. I might give Edge a solid run to see if it's worthy of making it my default browser.
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