EBC Rotors/pads vs Akebono/Powerstop?

[goblin]

How big is an upgraded rotor? Also, take into consideration that size of rotor includes the hub. So the sweep surface might still be small. My Sequoia has a smaller sweep surface than both BMW and Tiguan, and those two cars weigh 3,600lbs, while Sequoia weighs 5,934lbs!

The stopping benefit from larger rotors is not the sweep/contact surface (although it adds to the joy of course), but the longer imaginary lever from the center of the hub, at which the rotor is grabbed by the caliper.

Your original pads and calipers will have a stopping power that will increase the larger rotors you mount them on, all other things being equal (same pads = same contact area)

See how those puny two little pieces of rubber can throw you across the handlebar on a road bicycle with 26 inch wheels, whereas larger "grabbers" do close to nothing or very little on a kids' bike.

 

[edyvw]

The stopping benefit from larger rotors is not the sweep/contact surface (although it adds to the joy of course), but the longer imaginary lever from the center of the hub, at which the rotor is grabbed by the caliper.

Your original pads and calipers will have a stopping power that will increase the larger rotors you mount them on, all other things being equal (same pads = same contact area)

See how those puny two little pieces of rubber can throw you across the handlebar on a road bicycle with 26 inch wheels, whereas larger "grabbers" do close to nothing or very little on a kids' bike.

The first stop in Sequoia or BMW is not the problem. Smaller surface areas will heat up much faster than bigger ones. Also, I get what you are saying, the deterioration of braking power on smaller surfaces are due to the heat being much faster than in bigger ones.
Otherwise, brakes would not be topic number one among track folks figuring out how to save money.

 

[goblin]

The first stop in Sequoia or BMW is not the problem. Smaller surface areas will heat up much faster than bigger ones. Also, I get what you are saying, the deterioration of braking power on smaller surfaces are due to the heat being much faster than in bigger ones.
Otherwise, brakes would not be topic number one among track folks figuring out how to save money.

Indeed, what I meant by stopping benefit was braking force, as that's how it sounded in the post I commented on. It is of course true that pad surface and so on will matter for what makes the rest of the braking equation.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

I haven't seen mentioned the EBC Greenstuff pads to go with their rotors. That's another option for a daily driver. It would be more money than their Ultimax pads but less than yellow I think.

Greenstuff pads usually cost a lot more than the Ultimax, almost as much as Redstuff and Yellowstuff, yet performance is closer to the Ultimax. They are almost never a good deal.

Also be aware that EBC changed the Greenstuff formula many times over the years. Some of them are low dust, while some are not.

 

[tbm5690]

Installed the EBC gen 3 rotors and "black stuff" pads today. Rotors look identical to stock, which I was happy to see. Particularly, I was happy that they weren't any thinner that I'm aware is a trait of some aftermarket rotors.

 

[Rust_Belt_Pete]

Also the EBC rotors are actually balanced too unlike a lot of chinesium stuff