dual full flow or full flow bypass set up?

[Billy Marr]

I am contemplating wether to get a remote dual full flow (summit) or a remote full flow and bypass (Amsoil) for my truck. Here is the pertinant facts it is a 96 Chevy halfton 305 with aod and 160K miles. Daily driving is 8 miles round trip aone weekly drive of about 50 not loaded. Once a month trip of 300+ loaded with trailer total weight of 6000lbs.
Right now I run a SDF24 filter and Amsoil series 2000 0w30 oil. Transmission runs oil cooler and Amsoil fluid.
Which would be better for increasing life.
Allso this is in North Texas summer temps in the triple digits winter maybe in teens.

 

[pajim17057]

I'd go with the Amsoil bmk-13. It will keep the oil cleaner then two full flows.

 

[Gary Allan]

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Which would be better for increasing life.

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You've got some unique limited use on this engine. Both cold/short and stressful long mileage ..with little that could be called normal service.

I think you would be well served with the Amsoil dual setup ..but your OCI could still be quite short ..at least in miles.


I'd hit up msparks for an opinion on this. I'm all for "more/bigger is better" type additions (gosh yes!) ..but I'm wondering how I would approach this if I was in your shoes. I would think that TBN would take a decent hit before you get too many miles ..maybe not.

So for the engine, sure it will add protection in increased filtration and capacity for insult ..but I dunno about how long you can get an oil to last in that type of service.

 

[deepsquat]

Nothing beats a bypass ..heek you could run 6 full flow in line and it would not do as good a job as the bypass

 

[aldive]

I would definately go with the Amsoil bypass setup.

Good luck ...........

 

[RalphPWood]

The problem I have had here in the Dallas Texas area is excessive oil temperature. Using synthetic oil doesn't solve the problem. If you don't have an oil cooler, add one. Install an oil cooler and install a Motor Guard ATF filter in one of the lines going to the oil cooler. The Motor Guard ATF filter has an element bypass orifice. That way you will have clean oil and cool oil at the same time.
The biggest mistake people make here in Dallas is they allow the oil to get too dirty and too hot. The same goes for ATF.
I installed a filter on a 350 Chevy pickup and a 33 foot Carver boat up at Texoma. The guy used Mobil 1. The pickup had severe oxidation problems. The boat didn't. On the pickup the hoses had to be replaced in a couple of years. The yellow end protectors melted and poured off.
I installed a filter on a 350 GMC the same year that had a factory installed oil cooler. He used Quaker State 30 weight and had no oxidation problems.
There are no magic filters. A filter that cleans oil has to be changed more often than one that doesn't.

Ralph :burnout

 

[Billy Marr]

thanks guys that is what I thought will pick up a mbk13 this week.

 

[CQUG4R]

Hey, Ralph

I hear ya...you can say it til the cows come home...TP bypass IS the best choice in the end as far as cost if you use dino oil because of frequent TP changes and top offs.

I'm almost at the rinse phase of my Auto-RX, and I'll get a Motorgaurd M30 from ya sometime after that.

I haven't seen any of your posts recommending an oil cooler for folks who live in Texas. So should I get one for my 92 Honda Civic 4 cyl.? I live in Greenville and work in Richardson. Drive over one hundred miles per day to work and let the car rest on the weekends.

Thanks, Jim

 

[mjo]

Hi Ralph,

I use a Frantz TP bypass filter and, although clean, the oil still gets dark after say 3-4k miles. Not nearly as dark as without a BP filter, but enought to wonder if oxidation is causing it. Would an oil cooler help prolong the life of the oil and keep the oil lighter in color when used with a bypass filter? I live in Michigan and the Mobil One 5w30 is darker in the winter time compared with summer time.

 

[aldive]

What oil and ATF temperatures are you experiencing to recommend a cooler?

 

[Pablo]

Here is what I would do:

Get a dual remote full flow. Ads oil volume and two larger filters of your choice. Inexpensive and helps cooling.

AND

Get a stand alone remote bypass filter. Provides the micro filtration you are looking for without any worries of restricting normal oil flow. Adds some volume and slight cooling as a side benefit.

Oil coolers are a good suggestion - but I like the oil thermostat variety. Maybe not a problem for your rig and location, but pushing cold viscous oil through a cooler is not smart, nor necessary.