Drove a new Dart...

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I noticed a new Dart parked in front of the local dealership and stopped to check it out. After a few minute conversation with a salesman he offered to let me take it for a test drive. The car had the 1.4L MultiAir turbo and a 6 spd. manual (automatic not available with that engine at this point). After all I've read about the car I was anxious to see how it drove.

The first thing I noticed was how smooth the clutch and shifter were...very easy to drive and no "learning curve" to get used to it...very impressive. The engine was a little bit of a letdown. Despite all the hoopla I found it to be a little lethargic unless you "got into it" (I was taking it sorta easy) and spooled up the turbo. Without being "on boost" the car felt a little underpowered (but the great shifter helps with the gear rowing to compensate). I'd still rather a NA engine that doesn't require mashing the throttle to get power (I think the Cruze does it better...more transparent and less lag than this car). Ride and handling are excellent...very quiet and a good balance of supple ride and responsive handling.

The interior is a strong suit. This particular model had the (huge) 8.4 in. info. screen that included various climate/sound system functions and nav...a little complicated for the unfamiliar but nice once you're used to it (car had redundant manual climate controls). There were also some functions included on the steering wheel. The seats were comfortable (done in grey cloth)...leg/head/elbow room seemed reasonably generous and the back seat was comfortable for my 6 ft. frame. Fit and finish is first rate in this car from what i could see.

This particular bright red model stickered for $22,000 plus change and it was pretty well optioned so the pricing seems competitive (the car starts at about $18,000 according to the salesman). I'd prefer a little more engine torque (maybe the 2.4L MultiAir coming later?) but really liked the car (that 6 spd. manual trans is a must-have). If I were in the market for another car this would definitely be on my list. With the other great roll outs that they've been nailing lately I think Chrysler is definitely back!
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
im not sure but if i remember correctly the transmissions were from hyundai.


Only one of the auto's. The“PowerTech” six speed is sourced from Hyundai for non-turbo models.

The turbo Dart will get the Fiat sourced six-speed dual-clutch auto.
 
Originally Posted By: strongt
Go here to see Dodge Dart Engine and Trans specs and info:

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Give me the torque of the turbo 4 over the HP of the bigger 2.4L any day...
 
Cant say Ive ever had to mash the pedal to get power out of a turbo. Sometimes there is some spool lag, but that's another issue.

Needing to rev the heck out of an engine to get power (e.g. our integra) is another story.

I have three turbo cars and they are super easy to drive gentle and get the power I need... Two of them have small, low inertia turbos that spool fast and are mostly not noticable... Both make full torque nearly off of fast idle.

Wonder if there are DBW or similar lags occurring in the programming of the new car?
 
Sounds positive. I'll have to test drive one when I get the chance. I'd possibly even be interested in one if they come out with a hatch version or something a bit more useful.
 
I'd also like a hatchback next time. Even with the folding seats, my 2 sedans don't have the versatility of a hatch. Thankfully, there are more choices now than just a few years ago. I thought Chevy was coming out with a new Cruze hatchback...haven't heard much about it lately.
 
Sounds good!

I can't say I notice too much turbo lag with the 1.4T in my manual transmission Cruze. It's definitely very responsive, even at low RPM and throttle. It'll move right along, but "emergency full" power hesitates a second and then hits all at once. Mine is running an aftermarket tune, though, so they programmed in some more responsiveness from the DBW throttle at lower throttle openings.

Do you think this one'll roast the tires with the traction control turned off?
 
NOTE:

I looked at a Dart Rallye today...very nice!

Guess what the oil the Dart with the Multiair 1.4 uses?


Synthetic 5w40! Surprised me just a little..



What a nerd I am...
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The quality of these cars appears to be first rate. I really hope Chrysler has sweated the quality details on their new offerings...things like front suspension parts, rust prevention & transmissions that were issues on their "old" cars. Great engineering is fine but how the vehicle holds up over the long haul is what's important to owners. It's gonna be awhile before we know how well built these new Chrysler vehicles are.
 
I think I'll run to my Dodge dealer to drive one of these, or off to the Fiat dealer to drive a 500.

oilBabe and I will be in Italy in about a week, and we have a car rental for when we spend time on the Amalfi coast and Tuscany. Still debating a car while around Florence due to the traffic. But we may want to swing up to Maranello and/or to Pisa for a day trip.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Cant say Ive ever had to mash the pedal to get power out of a turbo. Sometimes there is some spool lag, but that's another issue.


Ever drive a draw thru carb'd Ford 2.3 Turbo?
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Spool lag?
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Yeah, little bit.

If you mashed it, it would go...eventually. The little green light that indicated TURBO on the left side of the dash was a little optimistic. It came on a while before the power did. If you weren't squashing the pedal, it wasn't going.

I don't think it was the carburetor. I just think Ford rushed out with the turbo before they had it sorted out. The Yamaha Turbo Seca was carbureted. But the boost would come on at partial throttle like a giant hand pushing this big fat porky thing along a little faster. Keep twisting and it would push progressively harder and harder. Deactivate the wastegate and you could almost keep up with a 600 Hurricane or Ninja....almost. Not bad for a fat, top heavy, shaft driven, 2 valve air-cooled 650

My TurboI Daytona was much better sorted. My 2.4 Turbo Chrysler makes 90% of it's torque at 2300rpm and it's probably a 15 year old design. The turbo engines get better with every new design. I can hardly wait.
 
Originally Posted By: GumbyJarvis
Test drove the 2013 1.4l Turbo today RallyE
OMG, Not too shabby for a rebadged lancer LOL


You mean looks wise or chassis wise ???

The car itself rides on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta. Not related to Lancer in any way ....... maybe the top of the line Tigershark engine might share similarities with the world engine chrystler/mitsu share sometimes.
 
Originally Posted By: GumbyJarvis
Test drove the 2013 1.4l Turbo today RallyE
OMG, Not too shabby for a rebadged lancer LOL


I just love it when people post who don't know what they're talking about.
 
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