Finally drove a Chevrolet Spark!

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I finally got to drive on yesterday ...

It was the base LS model with manual trans. The salesrep said that he didn't think GM was leasing them.

The interior was nice an simple and it did say "cheap" .. but it's a $12.5K car. It was very good for what it was. The front seat leg and head room was nearly as big as my focus.

The interior compared to a Fiesta: Materials weren't as nice, but the front seat was MORE COMFORTABLE than that of the fiesta. I can get in the Spark without getting my leg stuck under the steering wheel, and I have a lot of leg and head room. While the back seat of the Spark has a bit less knee room, I was able to sit straight up without my head hitting the roof! Really amazed at the amount of head and leg room in this car.

My only real complaint on the interior was the shifter hitting my thigh in 2nd gear.

The "trunk" on this was very small ... but it's a sub-sub compact. There is an inflator kit. If I were to get one, I'd have at least a donut in there from a junkyard ... and a jack and a lug wrench.

I really liked how everything was laid out under the hood. The engine fits between the strut towers with a lot of space to spare, the belt layout is a bit awkward ... I guess they mount accessories to the engine a bit different at Chevrolaewoo.

Driving it was actually a lot of fun! It's easy to start off in 1st gear with no gas, and starting off in second gear is possible without slipping the clutch too much. Around town, taking off and getting up to speed isn't that hard.

It's geared like a dump truck. 1-2-3-4 flies right by shifting at 3500RPM. The engine seems to have the same amount of (little) torque everywhere - I think because it's geared so shortly, it isn't hard to speed up the engine a bit. RPM at 60 was a hair above 3000 ... but I couldn't tell because the top of the steering wheel blocks the analog speedometer.

The car doesn't get blown around at all like I had expected it to! Driving at 65 (that's about as fast as I could get it to go), I hopped on a northbound interstate to get some good crosswinds ... but there wasn't much blowing around going on.

On ramps definitely make the car struggle. I didn't want to beat on it as it was new, but it took a lot of pedal and a lot of revs to get to 55 ... I don't know if it's because it's geared so low, or if there's just no power anywhere, but downshifting and planting the gas pedal didn't seem to make it want to get up quicker. You definitely have to plan ahead to do anything strenuous on the car.

It was reading between 38 and 45 on the highway.

Once at highway speed, it had no problem keeping speed. Mashing the gas in 5th gear ... yielded no results, dropping it to 4th and mashing the gas ... a little.

The shifter reminded me of the old Peterbilts I learned to drive on where you could wiggle the shifter around and the gears weren't really obvious where they were.

The battery light was also blinking the entire time.

The engine is a bit buzzy - but in a cool way, not an annoying / cheap way!

The suspension setup on this car is GREAT! There was body roll, but not near as much as I expected. The steering felt great (electric power steering is still a bit weird to me) and it was precise. No wondering in corners.

All in all, I'm really impressed with this car! The lack of a back seat is a bit impractical for me, as is another new car. I'm hoping these things don't have any resale value and I can pick one up cheap in a few years! Provided they are reliable, I can see them being a simple little car to keep.
 
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Thanks for that; the car probably doesn't appeal to 99% of the BITOG crowd, but the 1% left isn't 0%; I might be looking at that and the Sonic in 3 or so years.
 
"Battery light flashing all the way" That sounds ominous. Apparently these cars are selling to an older crowd than expected. There are a lot of people out there who just want a reliable way to get to work cheaply for a short or medium sized commute. As a direct competitor to a used car, which are unusually expensive in this environment, I can definitely see the attraction.

I suppose also, older people aren't fazed by a manual transmission, which is important in a car like this.
 
They have been on sale in Europe for a while now.

Not a quality product by any means but better than walking which is I think the market position they were aiming for.
 
if you live in an urban area and rarely need to go on the highway then this kind of vehicle might be considerable. i really dislike the idea of how dangerous it is on the highway though.
 
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
if you live in an urban area and rarely need to go on the highway then this kind of vehicle might be considerable. i really dislike the idea of how dangerous it is on the highway though.
The bottom line is that on the highway at high speeds, if a semi or other huge vehicle hits you in a typical passenger vehicle you probably will end up dead anyhow a crown vic might allow you to be a vegetable instead of dead, which seems to be the worst outcome if you ask me.
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88

... Driving at 65 (that's about as fast as I could get it to go)


Wow.

Even a SmartForTwo will indicate 90

Geo Metro 1.0 is a scorcher:
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I'm not sure what you mean by "lack of a back seat". They have a rather nice back seat. My Dad is 5'10" and fit back there no problem.

I got the one I test drove up to 85 no problem, and it wasn't topped out. It would do 70 without complaint.
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Thanks for that; the car probably doesn't appeal to 99% of the BITOG crowd, but the 1% left isn't 0%; I might be looking at that and the Sonic in 3 or so years.


These are more Aveo than Sonic. Look at used Aveos ... on CL they're going for $3000-$5000 (under $3k if there's any problems) and even on dealer lots they don't have any resale. The Sonics are a much more full featured, well rounded car - I expect them to have some resale value.


They do have a market - someone who wants a cheap, new (somewhat) flashy car with a warranty. And city dwellers that wouldn't have that much room to park.

I was surprised at hoe good of EPA mileage it seemed to get. It was indicating a LOT higher than the Focus (which always beats EPA estimate). I suspect it would get better than EPA in regular driving.

@MinamiKotaro ... I think I missed some words. I'm the same height and I could fit in the back seat of the car without hitting my head on the roof! The problem was my knee seemed to hit the from seat, but the rest of my leg had no problem.

I had a pretty good headwind, plus I didn't want to abuse it to get up to those speeds. I'm sure it can cruise around at 70 all day. The question is: would the engine hold together at sustained 4000RPM all day?

As far as safety ... if you're playing Chicken with an 18 wheeler at 65MPH, it isn't going to matter if you're in a Spark or a Ford Excursion. Anything vs 80,000 pounds is not going to end well for you.
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm sure it can cruise around at 70 all day. The question is: would the engine hold together at sustained 4000RPM all day?


The one I drove was turning about 3200 @ 70 in 5th gear.
 
If you calculate for inflation, the Spark is only a little bit more than an '86 Excel L base model.

It comes with a lot more than the Excel did. Even about 15 more horsepower. Torque is pretty close in spite of the Excel's 300cc advantage

I think it is a far better choice than the Scion iQ challenged and DumbForAll. And you're well into loaded up Spark price range by the time you get to base Fiesta or Mazda2 prices.

The shifter? I cannot say I'm surprised. Korean. As long as they improved it from Aveo slop to Accent level still sloppy but manageable, it'll work.
 
I've seen a few of them around. Mainly older folks are driving them.

Supposedly the marketing folks at the release were tossing around buzzwords that us Millenials are supposed to be hip to, like "apps" and "social media". Sorry, Chevy, your target market is either not buying cars, buying used cars, or buying just about anything else not lamely marketed to them. Stop trying so hard and let the cars sell themselves. The Cruze Eco is gaining a cult following (and expanding base of happy Millenial owners), while putting decent manual transmissions back into the mainstream Cruze and Sonic lineups got a younger, more enthusiast-oriented crowd into those cars. Those models/options were not explicitly targeted at Millenials, specifically males, but darn if they aren't working a treat at getting young folks behind the wheel of a Chevy. Making those cars in Ohio and Michigan helps, too. It's nice to know that some of the money is going to our fellow Americans.

Nice try, though. Now stop trying so hard. If there's one thing that Millenials can't stand, it's somebody trying to pitch them hard on a product.
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
I've seen a few of them around. Mainly older folks are driving them.

Supposedly the marketing folks at the release were tossing around buzzwords that us Millenials are supposed to be hip to, like "apps" and "social media". Sorry, Chevy, your target market is either not buying cars, buying used cars, or buying just about anything else not lamely marketed to them. Stop trying so hard and let the cars sell themselves. The Cruze Eco is gaining a cult following (and expanding base of happy Millenial owners), while putting decent manual transmissions back into the mainstream Cruze and Sonic lineups got a younger, more enthusiast-oriented crowd into those cars. Those models/options were not explicitly targeted at Millenials, specifically males, but darn if they aren't working a treat at getting young folks behind the wheel of a Chevy. Making those cars in Ohio and Michigan helps, too. It's nice to know that some of the money is going to our fellow Americans.

Nice try, though. Now stop trying so hard. If there's one thing that Millenials can't stand, it's somebody trying to pitch them hard on a product.


The appeal of this car, to me, is that it's cheap and simple. This millenial doesn't care about "apps" i nthe car, etc.

I can certainly understand why they are doing this, though. It's one of the cheap, "fun" and different looking cars on the market.

On another note, the auto trans is an Aisin transmission! The same as in the Yaris and Aveo. At least we know the auto trans will be reliable.
 
Want to see the crash tests. Awfully small, not much metal between you and a lady on the phone with 2 kids in back driving an SUV.
 
We saw one of these little guys on I-71 a couple of weeks ago.
What's with the stupid model names GM seems to glue on Chevys these days?
Cruze?
Sonic?
Spark?
Anyway, the car seemed to do just fine in keeping up with rural interstate traffic.
The Spark would make a fine low-buck new ride.
You could buy one for less money than the useless Smart or the almost as useless IQ.
 
They are trying to market to younger folks.

They're picking up popularity and the one or two I have seen were blowing by me in traffic. They dart around traffic pretty good.

Actually saw 3 over the weekend!
 
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