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bbhero ... what kind of PPE do the care takers use at your facility?
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
So what's the recorded percentage of people working with & near CV patients in hospitals, healthcare facilities, etc that have correctly worn N95 masks and associated PPE have contracted the disease?
How do you even come close to ensuring whether or not it was worn correctly in this matrices?
Ok, take out the "worn correctly" parameter ... what's the recorded cases of transmission to CV patient care takers wearing N95 and associated PPE? I'd venture to think that anyone in close proximity and working on CV patients would pretty much be real conscious about using the PPE correctly. Wouldn't you?
On covid units, yes, but many present with odd symptoms before you even suspect. That said... https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928538 Healthcare workers don't really matter to organizations or the general public, so the tracking of any cases with them will be sporadic at best, as noone wants to waste money or time on it, and the horrific statistics regarding them would only discourage people from doing the job.
 
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by Ws6
Sepsis can cause all sorts of stuff. Dont go around saying covid causes strokes. Nicking your finger can cause a stroke by that matrix.
You don't like the truth? https://www.sciencealert.com/some-covid-19-patients-are-also-reporting-neurological-symptoms https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/929345 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/
Fearmongering. Yes covid can lead to sepsis...sepsis can and does increase risk of many things. Stroke included. Inflammation is a given even when sepsis doesn't result. Covid isnt some magic pandoras box. Lots of things happen within the body. The news loves to pick and choose and people love to get excited. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5338564/#S14title Oh...the flu causes strokes, too. https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20190130/flu-may-raise-chance-of-stroke-neck-artery-tears
 
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by Ws6
Sepsis can cause all sorts of stuff. Dont go around saying covid causes strokes. Nicking your finger can cause a stroke by that matrix.
You don't like the truth? https://www.sciencealert.com/some-covid-19-patients-are-also-reporting-neurological-symptoms https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/929345 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/
Fearmongering. Yes covid can lead to sepsis...sepsis can and does increase risk of many things. Stroke included. Inflammation is a given even when sepsis doesn't result. Covid isnt some magic pandoras box. Lots of things happen within the body. The news loves to pick and choose and people love to get excited. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5338564/#S14title Oh...the flu causes strokes, too. https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20190130/flu-may-raise-chance-of-stroke-neck-artery-tears
I think you are confusing a few things. Pointing something out that is true is one thing. Your conclusion of fear mongering is something else.
 
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by Ws6
Sepsis can cause all sorts of stuff. Dont go around saying covid causes strokes. Nicking your finger can cause a stroke by that matrix.
You don't like the truth? https://www.sciencealert.com/some-covid-19-patients-are-also-reporting-neurological-symptoms https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/929345 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/
Fearmongering. Yes covid can lead to sepsis...sepsis can and does increase risk of many things. Stroke included. Inflammation is a given even when sepsis doesn't result. Covid isnt some magic pandoras box. Lots of things happen within the body. The news loves to pick and choose and people love to get excited. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5338564/#S14title Oh...the flu causes strokes, too. https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20190130/flu-may-raise-chance-of-stroke-neck-artery-tears
I think you are confusing a few things. Pointing something out that is true is one thing. Your conclusion of fear mongering is something else.
Its blatant fearmongering. Any upper respiratory illness can raise risk of stroke. The way people have been primed for this madness used to would boggle my mind, but I understand. I get it. It's why I live an hour from work off in the woods. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medicalnewstoday.com/amp/articles/324339
 
Originally Posted by Wolf359
Originally Posted by Ws6
Sepsis can cause all sorts of stuff. Dont go around saying covid causes strokes. Nicking your finger can cause a stroke by that matrix.
You don't like the truth? https://www.sciencealert.com/some-covid-19-patients-are-also-reporting-neurological-symptoms https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/929345 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/
Truth.... That's hilarious.... Those people there are not remotely objective... And like Ws6 has stated.... Sepsis can cause CVAs...
 
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
bbhero ... what kind of PPE do the care takers use at your facility?
Well... If there are n 95 masks left they get utilized... And a yellow gown... No face sheilds as of yet... But who knows.. maybe we will get them.
 
Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
bbhero ... what kind of PPE do the care takers use at your facility?
Well... If there are n 95 masks left they get utilized... And a yellow gown... No face sheilds as of yet... But who knows.. maybe we will get them.
No face shields meaning eyes exposed? At that point, there's really no point in wearing a mask right?
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
So what's the recorded percentage of people working with & near CV patients in hospitals, healthcare facilities, etc that have correctly worn N95 masks and associated PPE have contracted the disease?
Very 1 sided. This only entails people who've basically shown symptoms, tested negative for the flu and finally tested positive for covid19. I think we'll all be surprised when we see how many people test positive, but never became ill enough to get tested or never showed any symptoms at all. I realize your question is about healthcare workers so only the latter in my previous comment applies since we'd hope they aren't knowingly going to work sick.
 
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Originally Posted by dlundblad
Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
bbhero ... what kind of PPE do the care takers use at your facility?
Well... If there are n 95 masks left they get utilized... And a yellow gown... No face sheilds as of yet... But who knows.. maybe we will get them.
No face shields meaning eyes exposed? At that point, there's really no point in wearing a mask right?
Yeah really... I agree to a point. . Mask better than nothing in a active circumstance.. due to droplet potential nose mouth area... Though we have no active people with it now. Though you are totally correct if we did have one.
 
Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by dlundblad
Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
bbhero ... what kind of PPE do the care takers use at your facility?
Well... If there are n 95 masks left they get utilized... And a yellow gown... No face sheilds as of yet... But who knows.. maybe we will get them.
No face shields meaning eyes exposed? At that point, there's really no point in wearing a mask right?
Yeah really... I agree to a point. . Mask better than nothing in a active circumstance.. due to droplet potential nose mouth area... Though we have no active people with it now. Though you are totally correct if we did have one.
Absolutely better than nothing, but yes water droplets can go in the eyes. Only difference is the eyes aren't a vacuum and sucking things in like the nose or mouth. Eye protection is more washable/ reusable too.
 
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Originally Posted by dlundblad
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
So what's the recorded percentage of people working with & near CV patients in hospitals, healthcare facilities, etc that have correctly worn N95 masks and associated PPE have contracted the disease?
Very 1 sided. This only entails people who've basically shown symptoms, tested negative for the flu and finally tested positive for covid19. I think we'll all be surprised when we see how many people test positive, but never became ill enough to get tested or never showed any symptoms at all. I realize your question is about healthcare workers so only the latter in my previous comment applies since we'd hope they aren't knowingly going to work sick.
I'm hanging out for the Ca studies (oh, and Sweden)...my feel from my analysis is that we are going to be shocked at how many people got it...and the comparison to other risks that we accept daily...albeit not suddenly turning up all on the same day...
 
Originally Posted by Shannow
Originally Posted by DBMaster
If you want to, or have to, wear a mask one of these might be helpful to see how much it affects the oxygen levels in your blood. I found one very useful when visiting my dad in Colodardo (He lived at 10,000' and I live at 500'.) I could tell when I was acclimating decently when my level went from the low 90s back to 98+ percent. =Oximeter
They are proving to be very useful in COVID, allowing the early application of oxygen, and maybe preventing use of ventilator. I've got one for S and G with my breathwork...lowest I've got to was 46%....my 4 minute 6 secodn breath hold was 52%...great fun.
I ordered one. I think it could prove to be useful.
 
Originally Posted by dlundblad
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
So what's the recorded percentage of people working with & near CV patients in hospitals, healthcare facilities, etc that have correctly worn N95 masks and associated PPE have contracted the disease?
Very 1 sided. This only entails people who've basically shown symptoms, tested negative for the flu and finally tested positive for covid19. I think we'll all be surprised when we see how many people test positive, but never became ill enough to get tested or never showed any symptoms at all. I realize your question is about healthcare workers so only the latter in my previous comment applies since we'd hope they aren't knowingly going to work sick.
I'm betting that many people working in hospitals with CV patients are getting routine tests to see if anyone is catching it, regardless if they have symptoms or not. Another thing is most health care workers who have contracted CV were most likely not wearing N95 or other correct PPE in the early days when it hid hard. Many of them catching it at work could very well be in the beginning when this was all unfolding and proper precautions weren't being used or followed correctly. It would be hard to get collect accurate data from what was going on in the beginning, but would be easier to collect data right now knowing more about CV.
 
Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by dlundblad
Originally Posted by bbhero
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
bbhero ... what kind of PPE do the care takers use at your facility?
Well... If there are n 95 masks left they get utilized... And a yellow gown... No face sheilds as of yet... But who knows.. maybe we will get them.
No face shields meaning eyes exposed? At that point, there's really no point in wearing a mask right?
Yeah really... I agree to a point. . Mask better than nothing in a active circumstance.. due to droplet potential nose mouth area... Though we have no active people with it now. Though you are totally correct if we did have one.
Stay safe man ... take precautions if that place happens to get hit.
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by dlundblad
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
So what's the recorded percentage of people working with & near CV patients in hospitals, healthcare facilities, etc that have correctly worn N95 masks and associated PPE have contracted the disease?
Very 1 sided. This only entails people who've basically shown symptoms, tested negative for the flu and finally tested positive for covid19. I think we'll all be surprised when we see how many people test positive, but never became ill enough to get tested or never showed any symptoms at all. I realize your question is about healthcare workers so only the latter in my previous comment applies since we'd hope they aren't knowingly going to work sick.
I'm betting that many people working in hospitals with CV patients are getting routine tests to see if anyone is catching it, regardless if they have symptoms or not. Another thing is most health care workers who have contracted CV were most likely not wearing N95 or other correct PPE in the early days when it hid hard. Many of them catching it at work could very well be in the beginning when this was all unfolding and proper precautions weren't being used or followed correctly. It would be hard to get collect accurate data from what was going on in the beginning, but would be easier to collect data right now knowing more about CV.
Why? That's expensive. It can only cost money. Also, incubation period makes it impossible to know where one caught it, very nearly.
 
Originally Posted by Ws6
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
I'm betting that many people working in hospitals with CV patients are getting routine tests to see if anyone is catching it, regardless if they have symptoms or not. Another thing is most health care workers who have contracted CV were most likely not wearing N95 or other correct PPE in the early days when it hid hard. Many of them catching it at work could very well be in the beginning when this was all unfolding and proper precautions weren't being used or followed correctly. It would be hard to get collect accurate data from what was going on in the beginning, but would be easier to collect data right now knowing more about CV.
Why? That's expensive. It can only cost money. Also, incubation period makes it impossible to know where one caught it, very nearly.
It's not that expensive. ... if it was, there wouldn't have been the millions of tests already done on people. New test methods are being developed quickly. If you were working in an environment where you were surrounded by infected people don't you think it would be wise to do some routine testing on health care workers? Maybe everyone should just ignore CV and not take any precautions and let it "do it's thing".
 
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