Draining oil too well is bad

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I don't know if this includes the entire '05+ Ford line-up, but on my F-150 if I hold the pedal to the floor, the engine will crank but not start.




Flooded start mode. It's a core function of all modern PCMs. Has been for years. As for the oil draining thing how O/C can people get? It's enough to creep me out
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Aren't there check valves in some oil pumps that prevent it from loosing prime?

I did a timing belt on an engine with hydraulic lifters. Clanked like a MFer when I started it up. Thought I destroyed the engine. But as soon as oil pressure built up, it went away.
 
Well for what it is worth, I now let oil drip for a couple of hours, even more in summer, while I never put any oil into new filters. On Hondas and a Mazda I never heard any sort of unusual noise.
 
I change the filter, drain the oil for 5 minutes or I get impatient (whichever is shorter), put the plug back in, fill it up, and call it done.

You people who bounce the front end up and down, let it drain for hours on end, turn the engine over without oil in it, etc. really exemplify the phrase "diminishing returns".
 
I get very little out of the filter after I unscrew it (it hangs nearly straight up and down), just whatever spill out of the filter. I pop the drain bolt out of the pan, catch a smoke, change the filter, put the bolt back. There's a little still coming out, but such a thin stream, if there was the slightest breeze under the car, it would blow away. At that point, what's left in there? 1/2 pint? 1/4?

Some things, you have to just...let go of.
 
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Not only do I drain long, I crank the engine dry to burp out the last spit of old oil. Never a problem on restart. Someone who was paranoid could crank their engine w/o spark to "pump it up" before a real start.





Cranking the engine without oil?
That sounds wrong on so many different levels.
 
I like to crank with the "clear flood" thing for 1-2 secs. before starting for real after an oil change. The only way for me to fill the upside down mounted oil filter. Without doing this, I get to see the oil light stay on and hear my valves clacking for a couple seconds instead. Necessary? probably not but its easy enough to do.

As far as draining every last drop, beyond 10 or 15 min. no more is gonna come out.
 
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I remove the drain plug, and remove the old oil filter while the sump is draining. I install a new filter, dry, after putting a light coating of old oil from the drain pan on the filter's sealing gasket. (I'm not about to chance spilling even a drop of fresh oil just for the filter gasket.) At that point the dripping from the oil pan drain hole has reduced in frequency to about once per second. I reinstall the oil drain plug, torque it, and then refill the engine with fresh 10w30 motor oil. When the engine is restarted, the oil pressure light always extinguishes within 5 seconds. A motor oil changeout is the most basic of internal combustion engine service, folks - not a religeous epiphany.




My OCI routine is exactly the same. I try to do a thorough job without getting all OCD about it. It's an oil change, not a religious sacrament.




Wrong on three counts:

1. The oil filter must be pre-filled.
2. The oil filter gasket must be coated with fresh oil
3. While the drain plug is out and after the new oil filter has been installed and with dipstick in, a dollop of fresh oil must be poured into the oil fill. Some will explain this as a "mini oil flush", but in reality, it is a sacrifice to the oil gods.
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