Don't you have better forums to argue politics?
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I can one up you and mix the 2 together.. Lets talk Bill Clinton
Wow... I'm shocked that you can type "sex" and have it not come out displaying "[censored]". Considering you cannot type the letter "B" followed by the letter "S" or the word "carp" with a slight tweak, that's surprising. And ridiculous.
It really isn't that hard to avoid. Some people just have to get their jabs in, regardless of the rules to which they agreed.
Originally Posted By: glum
Wow... I'm shocked that you can type "sex" and have it not come out displaying "[censored]". Considering you cannot type the letter "B" followed by the letter "S" or the word "carp" with a slight tweak, that's surprising. And ridiculous.
Its funny if it would be on a children's forum.
Its ridiculous because it's on a supposed "Adult" forum about automotive oil.
Do kids really frequent this site enough for us to NEED to have certain words censored for the little baby ears (or eyes in this case) in the audience?
Wow... I'm shocked that you can type "sex" and have it not come out displaying "[censored]". Considering you cannot type the letter "B" followed by the letter "S" or the word "carp" with a slight tweak, that's surprising. And ridiculous.
Its funny if it would be on a children's forum.
Its ridiculous because it's on a supposed "Adult" forum about automotive oil.
Do kids really frequent this site enough for us to NEED to have certain words censored for the little baby ears (or eyes in this case) in the audience?
Originally Posted By: glum
Wow... I'm shocked that you can type "sex" and have it not come out displaying "[censored]". Considering you cannot type the letter "B" followed by the letter "S" or the word "carp" with a slight tweak, that's surprising. And ridiculous.
100% EXACTLY what I was thinking when I read the original post.
Wow... I'm shocked that you can type "sex" and have it not come out displaying "[censored]". Considering you cannot type the letter "B" followed by the letter "S" or the word "carp" with a slight tweak, that's surprising. And ridiculous.
100% EXACTLY what I was thinking when I read the original post.
If I was to opine what a megalomaniacal buffoon D. Trump is, would that be censored as a political fiction or a statement of fact?
I got lucky last night.
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Because the definition of "politics" is too wide. Everything in our lives is touched by politics so it's hard to avoid.
+1. This is the General Topics forum, and many general topics easily overlap gray areas that can be labeled political.
That said, I see very, very little here resembling what you would find on political forums. Those go way into areas that people don't tread across here, and everything about the discussions is also very different from what you'd find in any topic you might call "political."
When that line is crossed, and the discussion strays into pure politics with all the unpleasant things that go along with those discussions, the mods lock it up pretty fast. Members do tend therefore to try and avoid crossing that line.
Besides, if you see a topic that looks like it might have some political overtone why not just ignore it? Nobody is ramming anything down your throat or forcing you to read something you might label "political."
Don't like it, don't read it. Works pretty well in all areas of life, including online forums.
To the OP: I could call this very topic of yours political, in that it begs censorship based on your POV and however you might arbitrarily define "political" content, yet you have no trouble with that. Funny how that works.
-Spyder
Because the definition of "politics" is too wide. Everything in our lives is touched by politics so it's hard to avoid.
+1. This is the General Topics forum, and many general topics easily overlap gray areas that can be labeled political.
That said, I see very, very little here resembling what you would find on political forums. Those go way into areas that people don't tread across here, and everything about the discussions is also very different from what you'd find in any topic you might call "political."
When that line is crossed, and the discussion strays into pure politics with all the unpleasant things that go along with those discussions, the mods lock it up pretty fast. Members do tend therefore to try and avoid crossing that line.
Besides, if you see a topic that looks like it might have some political overtone why not just ignore it? Nobody is ramming anything down your throat or forcing you to read something you might label "political."
Don't like it, don't read it. Works pretty well in all areas of life, including online forums.
To the OP: I could call this very topic of yours political, in that it begs censorship based on your POV and however you might arbitrarily define "political" content, yet you have no trouble with that. Funny how that works.
-Spyder
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Originally Posted By: Spyder7
To the OP: I could call this very topic of yours political, in that it begs censorship based on your POV and however you might arbitrarily define "political" content, yet you have no trouble with that. Funny how that works.
-Spyder
You talking to? YOU TALKING TO ME?? ( DeNiro's voice
You have got that completely wrong. For the record, I agree with most of your views. You put lot of efforts in to giving cogent argument but I honestly feel that there are other people here who try to ridicule you. I admire your courage and being able to keep cool under attacks. Unfortunately, it has become more like wrestling with pigs :-(
I tried to inject some levity but I guess I failed.
- Vikas
To the OP: I could call this very topic of yours political, in that it begs censorship based on your POV and however you might arbitrarily define "political" content, yet you have no trouble with that. Funny how that works.
-Spyder
You talking to? YOU TALKING TO ME?? ( DeNiro's voice
You have got that completely wrong. For the record, I agree with most of your views. You put lot of efforts in to giving cogent argument but I honestly feel that there are other people here who try to ridicule you. I admire your courage and being able to keep cool under attacks. Unfortunately, it has become more like wrestling with pigs :-(
I tried to inject some levity but I guess I failed.
- Vikas
I don't believe in arguing political points.
I do believe in killing the messengers.
I do believe in killing the messengers.
The relative lack of politics and the attempts at civility when controversial topics are posted are very welcome these days.
There are other sites I go to for my politics fix. This is a site for discussing cars and car topics, not screaming talking points at each other.
There are other sites I go to for my politics fix. This is a site for discussing cars and car topics, not screaming talking points at each other.
Originally Posted By: Vikas
You put lot of efforts in to giving cogent argument but I honestly feel that there are other people here who try to ridicule you.
They try, but the response they give by way of its substance (or lack of it), and clear - to me - demonstration that its not their own thoughts, but an echoing of someone else's that they don't even fully understand (not by a mile) would surprise you as to who is really laughing at who, and with every reason to.
Due to academic training where comprehension of complex questions had to be fully demonstrated in a one draft, race against the clock, response to that question, I've learned how to very quickly organize and compose my thoughts. This was later reinforced in jobs I've done where detailed reports were required and where you were again raced the clock.
As I can type much faster than I can write long hand, it might come as a surprise to some to realize that my longest posts are typically written in less than 10 minutes, and the majority in under 5.
A lot of time is saved, and substance easily presented, when you already have a fundamental grasp of what you're writing about that requires no time spent looking things up online.
When I don't understand a topic well enough to form that type of response, I elect not to flout my ignorance on a public forum for the world to read.
If its of interest enough to me to respond to, but I lack that level of understanding, I put to good use the "information superhighway" at my finger tips to read whatever information I can find online that is at whatever very basic level of understanding I possess, and work up from there building block style until I know the subject matter well enough to write about it (that I can speed read provides a valuable time saver to that end, and that I enjoy knowledge, on a wide variety of subjects, for its own intrinsic value provides the only motivation I need if its of interest to me).
Not to suggest that I expect the same in return. I don't - unless someone demonstrates a strong viewpoint to the contrary. I then expect an equally strong understanding of the subject to be demonstrated. Otherwise its just a meaningless rant, and I dismiss it as such. If they resort to some form of personal attack in lieu of argument (as its used in philosophy and other realms where argument is used as explanation), then I really know they don't have a clue what they're spouting off about, and would better spend their time educating themselves on the issue rather than writing their inflammatory rants.
JMO.
-Spyder
You put lot of efforts in to giving cogent argument but I honestly feel that there are other people here who try to ridicule you.
They try, but the response they give by way of its substance (or lack of it), and clear - to me - demonstration that its not their own thoughts, but an echoing of someone else's that they don't even fully understand (not by a mile) would surprise you as to who is really laughing at who, and with every reason to.
Due to academic training where comprehension of complex questions had to be fully demonstrated in a one draft, race against the clock, response to that question, I've learned how to very quickly organize and compose my thoughts. This was later reinforced in jobs I've done where detailed reports were required and where you were again raced the clock.
As I can type much faster than I can write long hand, it might come as a surprise to some to realize that my longest posts are typically written in less than 10 minutes, and the majority in under 5.
A lot of time is saved, and substance easily presented, when you already have a fundamental grasp of what you're writing about that requires no time spent looking things up online.
When I don't understand a topic well enough to form that type of response, I elect not to flout my ignorance on a public forum for the world to read.
If its of interest enough to me to respond to, but I lack that level of understanding, I put to good use the "information superhighway" at my finger tips to read whatever information I can find online that is at whatever very basic level of understanding I possess, and work up from there building block style until I know the subject matter well enough to write about it (that I can speed read provides a valuable time saver to that end, and that I enjoy knowledge, on a wide variety of subjects, for its own intrinsic value provides the only motivation I need if its of interest to me).
Not to suggest that I expect the same in return. I don't - unless someone demonstrates a strong viewpoint to the contrary. I then expect an equally strong understanding of the subject to be demonstrated. Otherwise its just a meaningless rant, and I dismiss it as such. If they resort to some form of personal attack in lieu of argument (as its used in philosophy and other realms where argument is used as explanation), then I really know they don't have a clue what they're spouting off about, and would better spend their time educating themselves on the issue rather than writing their inflammatory rants.
JMO.
-Spyder
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Because the definition of "politics" is too wide. Everything in our lives is touched by politics so it's hard to avoid.
+1
And it does make it harder when there is a lot going on in the world right now, whether it be good or bad.
Because the definition of "politics" is too wide. Everything in our lives is touched by politics so it's hard to avoid.
+1
And it does make it harder when there is a lot going on in the world right now, whether it be good or bad.
JHZR2
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Look, it is REALLY simple. There are rules and they are set out clearly. Do you agree or not?
This is not a public free-for-all. If you have a problem with the rules, go elsewhere. It is very easy to do so. There are plenty of forums that will have you.
If you want to stick around, follow the rules. If you dont like them then go elsewhere.
This is not a public free-for-all. If you have a problem with the rules, go elsewhere. It is very easy to do so. There are plenty of forums that will have you.
If you want to stick around, follow the rules. If you dont like them then go elsewhere.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Look, it is REALLY simple. There are rules and they are set out clearly. Do you agree or not?
This is not a public free-for-all. If you have a problem with the rules, go elsewhere. It is very easy to do so. There are plenty of forums that will have you.
If you want to stick around, follow the rules. If you dont like them then go elsewhere.
I think it is more of a question that he is asking about why politics seem to get thrown into many threads....not even the usual ones, like the economy or GM....
Look, it is REALLY simple. There are rules and they are set out clearly. Do you agree or not?
This is not a public free-for-all. If you have a problem with the rules, go elsewhere. It is very easy to do so. There are plenty of forums that will have you.
If you want to stick around, follow the rules. If you dont like them then go elsewhere.
I think it is more of a question that he is asking about why politics seem to get thrown into many threads....not even the usual ones, like the economy or GM....
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Look, it is REALLY simple. There are rules and they are set out clearly. Do you agree or not?
This is not a public free-for-all. If you have a problem with the rules, go elsewhere. It is very easy to do so. There are plenty of forums that will have you.
If you want to stick around, follow the rules. If you dont like them then go elsewhere.
I think it is more of a question that he is asking about why politics seem to get thrown into many threads....not even the usual ones, like the economy or GM....
Agreed. I was mainly responding to the bunch of posts a few up that were claiming how ridiculous it was to have a censor on the site, and trying to throw the thread off topic.
I concur with you and the OP.
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Look, it is REALLY simple. There are rules and they are set out clearly. Do you agree or not?
This is not a public free-for-all. If you have a problem with the rules, go elsewhere. It is very easy to do so. There are plenty of forums that will have you.
If you want to stick around, follow the rules. If you dont like them then go elsewhere.
I think it is more of a question that he is asking about why politics seem to get thrown into many threads....not even the usual ones, like the economy or GM....
Agreed. I was mainly responding to the bunch of posts a few up that were claiming how ridiculous it was to have a censor on the site, and trying to throw the thread off topic.
I concur with you and the OP.
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