Does 911 react to late?

[Leo99]

Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/mike-mcdaniel/reflection-self-defense-police/

The real truth: you are on your on when a intruder is in your home......scary thought most of us are not trained , but you think you are..imho.


Very true. I'm a relatively new gun owner. About 4 years. Keep a pistol next to my bed. Heard a noise that woke me up last year. Went out to investigate and realized and didn't bring my gun. Luckily, it wasn't an intruder but if it was... I was unprepared.

 

[Buhwheat]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm "rural" now, I guess, and quite a ways from the nearest police barracks. I really should work on being more prepared than calling 911.


Just remember: When seconds matter, police are only minutes away.

 

[OPR4H]

Originally Posted By: vintageant
Thought this was a Porsche turbo lag story

+1

 

[Smoky14]

We are each responsible for our own salvation.

Smoky

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Originally Posted By: Buhwheat
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm "rural" now, I guess, and quite a ways from the nearest police barracks. I really should work on being more prepared than calling 911.


Just remember: When seconds matter, police are only minutes away.


One of the best endings of any show ever!

https://youtu.be/ee_cKLRxuu8?t=1m18s

 

[MNgopher]

Thread title is misleading clickbait at its best.

A. In many places, "911" is not the police department, sheriff, etc... It often can be a totally separate organization that solely exists to provide dispatch services for law enforcement, fire, and ambulance services. (I live in one such county).
B. 911 can only dispatch services once they are called for, and then allocate an appropriate response.
C. Response time is the issue for the law enforcement agency, or other emergency service.


Reading this thread apparently my paranoia level is nowhere near high enough...

 

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

I am by no means pro NRA but I grew up with guns and still have several handguns throughout the house. You never know when a nut high on meth is going to kick your door in. I hope I will keep my wits about me if this ever happens and be able to place several full jacket hollow point +P rounds where they do the most good.

 

[jeepman3071]

I think this relates to encounters outside the home as well, such as road rage incidents. Too many instances lately where people sit in their car as an intruder walks over and beats them with a weapon of some sort while they wait on the phone with dispatch.

If someone was ever to pull in front of me and block my path, then approach my vehicle with what looks like intention to harm, I will use my vehicle in whatever means necessary to get out of that situation.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: OPR4H
Originally Posted By: vintageant
Thought this was a Porsche turbo lag story

+1


Haha same here!

 

[SatinSilver]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Originally Posted By: OPR4H
Originally Posted By: vintageant
Thought this was a Porsche turbo lag story

+1


Haha same here!


I sure wish it was, especially after reading POST NUMBER FOUR in this thread. Sheesh! Probably the most disturbing thing I've ever read on here.

 

[CELICA_XX]

Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
I am by no means pro NRA but I grew up with guns and still have several handguns throughout the house. You never know when a nut high on meth is going to kick your door in. I hope I will keep my wits about me if this ever happens and be able to place several full jacket hollow point +P rounds where they do the most good.


Your first 7 words contradict the rest of your post

Perhaps you should consider joining. They offer training to help keep your wits during stressful situations and they could also teach you there is no such thing as a full jacket hollow point.

 

[Wheel]

Yes, 911 is always behind. No one ever calls early, its always after a problem is out of hand. Whether its a fire, assault or whatnot, most of us think we have a handle on things we don't. A cop or fireman would likely be noticing and reacting to things most of us don't pay attention to.

We all need to pay more attention to what's going on, ask for help sooner, and to be better prepared.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: Leo99
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/mike-mcdaniel/reflection-self-defense-police/

The real truth: you are on your on when a intruder is in your home......scary thought most of us are not trained , but you think you are..imho.


Very true. I'm a relatively new gun owner. About 4 years. Keep a pistol next to my bed. Heard a noise that woke me up last year. Went out to investigate and realized and didn't bring my gun. Luckily, it wasn't an intruder but if it was... I was unprepared.


Outside the house or inside the house?

 

[CELICA_XX]

Originally Posted By: Leo99
Very true. I'm a relatively new gun owner. About 4 years. Keep a pistol next to my bed. Heard a noise that woke me up last year. Went out to investigate and realized and didn't bring my gun. Luckily, it wasn't an intruder but if it was... I was unprepared.


Good thing you didn't...

Never, never take a gun outside to go "investigate" a noise.

God forbid you ever fired a shot outside at someone, you would be going to jail.

 

[spasm3]

Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: Leo99
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/mike-mcdaniel/reflection-self-defense-police/

The real truth: you are on your on when a intruder is in your home......scary thought most of us are not trained , but you think you are..imho.


Very true. I'm a relatively new gun owner. About 4 years. Keep a pistol next to my bed. Heard a noise that woke me up last year. Went out to investigate and realized and didn't bring my gun. Luckily, it wasn't an intruder but if it was... I was unprepared.


Outside the house or inside the house?
Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
Originally Posted By: Leo99
Very true. I'm a relatively new gun owner. About 4 years. Keep a pistol next to my bed. Heard a noise that woke me up last year. Went out to investigate and realized and didn't bring my gun. Luckily, it wasn't an intruder but if it was... I was unprepared.


Good thing you didn't...

Never, never take a gun outside to go "investigate" a noise.

God forbid you ever fired a shot outside at someone, you would be going to jail.



Kind of where i was headed. Not, never take a gun outside, but never go outside to investigate. You don't know who or where they are , but they know your exits. Stay put, know where everyone in the house is, watch if possible without being seen watching and decide when to call 911, if the entrance is breached, they don't know where you are.

As far as a gun outside. I have a long drive and wooded property, so during the day especially during the week, i open carry. I open carry for two reasons. If the property is being cased, someone is there armed during the day, they will pick easier targets. The other reason is coyotes, and rabid animals.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Buhwheat
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I'm "rural" now, I guess, and quite a ways from the nearest police barracks. I really should work on being more prepared than calling 911.


Just remember: When seconds matter, police are only minutes away.


+1, even in NJ where many towns are a mile or two square, and have their own dedicated police force, it can take two minutes.

Fortunately we have low crime, so my concern is more that it also takes two minutes or so for our firefighters and EMTs to arrive.

But the minutes element means that any event is over before help arrives. A standoff with the police coming is a nice thought, but you cant be sure of that. The two key elements are statistics (your likelihood of encountering an invader in many lifetimes is nearly non-existant, and moreso in safer locales), and then being armed and trained in case that falls through...

While I find some of the pro gun/self defense types to be extreme, it absolutely blows my mind how anyone can be on the other end of the spectrum and sleep well at night, even given the statistics.

 

[methusaleh]

Originally Posted By: Wheel

We all need to pay more attention to what's going on, ask for help sooner, and to be better prepared.


Absolutely!

I have to add, after spending the first few years of my time in public safety as a dispatcher (now going on 23 years in law enforcement) and occasionally having to fill in as a dispatcher for a few hours over the years...

If you have to call 911, try your best to at least communicate your location and the services needed, even if you can not clearly speak during the rest of the call. You never know what is going on at the other end of the phone. The dispatcher answering the 911 line could have HVAC background noise, an officer on the radio calling in a motor vehicle stop, a firefighter on the radio making a request for mutual aid, and a citizen standing in the lobby waiting for a motor vehicle accident report, all at once. Though the dispatcher will be making the 911 call a priority, the audio on the phone may be competing with lots of other audio sources in the dispatch center.

 

[Dr_Who]

Originally Posted By: CELICA_XX
Originally Posted By: Leo99
Very true. I'm a relatively new gun owner. About 4 years. Keep a pistol next to my bed. Heard a noise that woke me up last year. Went out to investigate and realized and didn't bring my gun. Luckily, it wasn't an intruder but if it was... I was unprepared.


Good thing you didn't...

Never, never take a gun outside to go "investigate" a noise.

God forbid you ever fired a shot outside at someone, you would be going to jail.


Not in ALL states, there are quite a few where the "Castle Law" extends to your entire property including
such things as cars, and yes, horses. If a perp attempts to steal such property you are legally permitted to shoot and kill such actors in the commission of those crimes. Of course optimally you should wait until the perp is actually inside of the car, and make sure that you always lock the doors so they have committed a break and enter action, once they enter the vehicle and are seated.....When the police arrive I would always mention that you were concerned that the subject was likely armed in the process of the crime, so you took measures to neutralize the threat to your own personal safety.

 

[DoubleWasp]

I am not pro-NRA either, but have been a gun owner since 11 years old.

I have no desire to kill any human being at all, even a burglar.

But I'm going to do whatever is necessary not to be a victim. Hopefully that will mean that I manage to deter the criminal, but deadly force is not off of the table. First round is rock salt. The rest are not.

 

[CELICA_XX]

Originally Posted By: Dr_Who
Not in ALL states, there are quite a few where the "Castle Law" extends to your entire property including
such things as cars, and yes, horses. If a perp attempts to steal such property you are legally permitted to shoot and kill such actors in the commission of those crimes. Of course optimally you should wait until the perp is actually inside of the car, and make sure that you always lock the doors so they have committed a break and enter action, once they enter the vehicle and are seated.....When the police arrive I would always mention that you were concerned that the subject was likely armed in the process of the crime, so you took measures to neutralize the threat to your own personal safety.


Worst advice on the forum.

You would be spending the next 30 years in prison.

Please tell me in which jurisdiction you are legally protected to GO OUTSIDE WITH A FIREARM and blast someone for stealing property.

Castle doctrine rights only apply when you are IN your car, not while you are outside your car.

Property crime alone never justifies lethal force.