Do you think motor oil counterfeiting is going on?

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As for retail products, one small clue as to counterfeiting is packaging. In general, poor quality products have poor packaging (imprecise printing, off-center labels, flimsy packaging construction, etc.), whereas authentic, name-brand products have superior packaging (substantial construction, precise printing, decals centered, no errors, etc.)
 
Good question... I think Amalie is their own animal... at least the bottling facility. They have the Amalie and Wolf's Head brands, plus offer a private label service in case any of you wants to start selling BITOG brand motor oil... of course you'll have to get them to add MoS2, MMO, Kreen, extra ZDDP and Boron to it to have it live up to the name. Just Kidding around...
 
the whole point of this thread is that judging a book by it's cover is bad.
just because a brand has goofy packaging and doesn't exhibit a well adhered label, doen't make it a poorly blended oil.
 
Originally Posted By: Hootbro
Wal-Mart does not do "loss leaders". It either makes money or it is gone. Everything in Wal-Mart has to earn it's keep on the shelf


I'm not so sure. I've worked in retail for a lot of years, and I know that bulk buying power can work amazing results. It cannot, however, work miracles. I suppose it's possible, but I have reasons to believe otherwise, particularly because their regular prices get spanked by even small parts stores and their quart discounts are never as deep as the much more logistically friendly larger bottles and nowhere near as cheap as sales at small parts stores, leading me to believe WM is subsidizing their sales with their regular prices, and their jug sales with their quart prices. I could very easily be mistaken, however.

In any event, however, my point still stands. Motor oil doesn't have the markup of a lot of retail products we see out there. Rolex watches are the classic example. Real or genuine, they're small and easy to transport and have large markup.

Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Normal mark up at the jewelry store is about 40%....

But you can buy Rolexes all day in New York City for $50 each.


Yep, that was my point. For someone to sell a counterfeit 5 quart jug of PYB, it would have to be at less than half of Walmart's best recent price of $11.88. And people would be suspicious, like they would of the $50 Rolex. If a $50 Rolex keeps good time, I could live with it, even if it's a bit tacky. If the counterfeit oil is not actually able to meet SN/GF-5 standards, I wouldn't go near it.
 
would there be fuel counterfeiting when you pull into a station that is one brand, lets say valero, or Exxon, and it gets the generic "riggins" fuel (around here that is the ind station brand) droped into the under ground tank.

Also the only counterfit oil is stuff like Maxiguard, used oil mascarading as brand new oil in a bottle.
 
I imagine much of the counterfeiting is possible for people that have access to empty containers. That's how we find some people sell counterfeit versions of our company's product. We ask that that our clients destroy the packaging once they install the product.
 
Counterfeiting could be going on at the local service station level where they could:

1. Buy cheap bulk oil and fill the Mobil1/Castrol bottles and sell it as such
2. Fill up the cheap oil bottles with oil drained during an oil change
 
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