Do you run a Fram TG?

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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
I've been getting them on Amazon, I found a wicked deal on the ones for the Jeep.

I haven't had bad luck buying filters online, but I can't see my luck lasting. I'll order one from them just in time for them to switch to louvers and get a closed sample sent to me.
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No. Do however run an Ultra occasionally, though it has nothing to do with flow considerations. In PC use, flow an insignificant factor. In the TG tier, prefer Napa Gold/(Wix) that I can obtain for <$4.
 
Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Well, I will be the first to admit; I run Tough Guards and even ST filters without issues. Many here on BITOG thought I lost it going way over 15k on a TG too
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I've got 24,000 on a Tough Guard on my truck,

I'm not going to take it off until I get to 30,000 miles
 
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Well, I will be the first to admit; I run Tough Guards and even ST filters without issues. Many here on BITOG thought I lost it going way over 15k on a TG too
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I've got 24,000 on a Tough Guard on my truck,

I'm not going to take it off until I get to 30,000 miles


You should reconsider.
Stude's 20K TG pics looked pretty nasty. See for yourself, if you can find it. I see there's only three pages of archives. So those pics may be long-gone.
 
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by 53' Stude
Well, I will be the first to admit; I run Tough Guards and even ST filters without issues. Many here on BITOG thought I lost it going way over 15k on a TG too
wink.gif



I've got 24,000 on a Tough Guard on my truck,

I'm not going to take it off until I get to 30,000 miles


You should reconsider.
Stude's 20K TG pics looked pretty nasty. See for yourself, if you can find it. I see there's only three pages of archives. So those pics may be long-gone.


Need to choose Show All Threads at the bottom of the forum to see them all. It would be crazy to blow away all the info on this chat board.
 
Originally Posted by Patman
All of the posts from the very beginning (2002) are still on here, nothing is missing
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Yeah, it was only the test forum, for sale forum, and rebates/sales forum that were pruned.
 
Triple_Se7en: that TG filter saw some gnarly -12 to -15F weather in December last year. Running M1 HM 10w40 probably didnt help
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Originally Posted by Coastie05
I'm new here and I find reading about oil and filters oddly fascinating. I am currently running Fram TG7317 on both my Honda's. Prior to that I used WIX, Mobil 1, and mainly OEM. I honestly don't notice a difference between the filters. I run full synthetic in both vehicles and change my oil and filter at 7,500 miles. My wife's CRV is about 60/40 hwy/city and my Civic is 100 hwy. I guess my question is how many people run Fram TG filters?

The only Fram I would run anymore is the Ultra, or Pro Synthetic (equivalent). Got a handful for the 'Vette from Rock Auto, on clearance. Pretty sweet.
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix

XG3600 ... synthetic media flows better.

Zee, I know what you mean, but for those intent on arguing, should we not say something like "synthetic media presents a lower restriction to flow vs cellulose media, therefore exhibiting a lower PSID across the media for a given flow rate"?


Yes, that's true. What Subie is saying is the actual flow volume through the oil filter does not increase - those who know about positive displacement oil pumps should automatically know that. So with the same flow rate, and a "better flowing filter", the pressure drop (delta-p) across the filter will be less.

Thanks for bringing that up.


I completely agree that syn media will offer less restriction.

But it won't matter one tiny little bit to the engine. The engine is going to get it's oil just fine because ANY decent filter will flow FAR more than the engine requires.
 
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by CT8
I doubt you would notice and difference between any major name oil or oil filters.


This is correct.

Tough Guards are very good filters....

but you will **NEVER** tell any difference in filtering ability outside of a lab environment.


Expect with an ISO particle count .. easily purchased by anyone who what's to spend the money. Difference in oil cleanliness of about 10x between a 99% @ 20u vs 99% @ 40u. Of course nobody can "see" the difference without lab data ... certainly aren't going to see a difference by looking at the oil on a dipstick or Fe or "insolubles" in a UOA.



This means what as far an engine performance and longevity there is plenty of lab test data but no data with actual engines with different filters and same OCI working in the same environment.
 
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by CT8
I doubt you would notice and difference between any major name oil or oil filters.

This is correct.

Tough Guards are very good filters....

but you will **NEVER** tell any difference in filtering ability outside of a lab environment.

Except with an ISO particle count .. easily purchased by anyone who what's to spend the money. Difference in oil cleanliness of about 10x between a 99% @ 20u vs 99% @ 40u. Of course nobody can "see" the difference without lab data ... certainly aren't going to see a difference by looking at the oil on a dipstick or Fe or "insolubles" in a UOA.

This means what as far an engine performance and longevity there is plenty of lab test data but no data with actual engines with different filters and same OCI working in the same environment.


The PC data I found here on BITOG was on real engines in real world use. I don't think you necessary need identical engines in identical use conditions to compare filter performance, because with full flow filters all the oil cycles through it thousands of times. So at the end of a decent length OCI, the oil is going to be as clean as the filter will make it, meaning the steady-state of oil cleanliness as a function of the filter efficiency was achieved.
 
Originally Posted by gregk24
No, the Ultra is too close in price for much better performance. The TG is an excellent filter though.


For much better performance ? How is it possible ? What performance are we talking about here ?
 
I have used them in the past, along with Ultras but now using orange cans to save money since they now have a silicone ADBV.
 
Yes, a Chinese cartridge TG. It's overpriced, but hasn't had the problems the equivalent Ultra has had. Will remove and check it at the end of the current interval, when it should have around 25k miles.
 
No because I think they are over priced for what you get. I think the supertech is equal for less than 1/3 the price.
 
Originally Posted by Pinoak
No because I think they are over priced for what you get. I think the supertech is equal for less than 1/3 the price.



Supertech is no where near 99%+ efficiency at 20 microns.
Yes and Supertech will give you what you paid for.
 
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