Decent/good smartphone?
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My S22 has 4 years of promised updates.
Not that it matters, in the land of cheap android phones and plans you can basically get a free phone with your plan every 1 or 2 years.
I know several family members running old samsung phones and one is still using an old LG g6. No security issues, phones work as flawlessly as they did the day they were purchased.
The S22 is a flagship phone designed to be the best of the best. Much like a Hellcat.
The Moto G Power is all about battery life. Much like a 70's oil crisis Civic.
But yeah, people own both and are happy with their choices as long as it meets their goals/needs.
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C’com man … once it’s on a Chinese owned company phone it’s double secure
on the serious side - the company is very strict on security and will only issue Apple iPhones …
My own - scaled down to the SE to go back to thumbprint …
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That's what I use. Not really in love with the stylus though but agree....
Yeah, not many know Motorola mobility is owned by a Chinese company called Lenovo.C’com man … once it’s on a Chinese owned company phone it’s double secure
on the serious side - the company is very strict on security and will only issue Apple iPhones …
My own - scaled down to the SE to go back to thumbprint …
I’m not saying good or bad as our home has run on an incredibly reliable Motorola owned by Lenovo router for years now. Bothers me a little but works so well and I don’t think anything can beat it.
For the OP I suspect he is just wanting a new basic phone at an almost or free price. Just for a change to something different. I kind of get that,
For me personally I wouldn’t want to give up the iPhone integration with my other Apple devices and in my case I’m too involved with Apple owning an iPhone, desktop, laptop and watch.
I entered the Apple sphere for a reason and wouldn’t find satisfaction in the Android or Windows world again. But I do get the idea of wanting to try something different. I’ve always loved electronics.
I recently got a Google pixel 6A. So far so good, much better than the Motorola I had before it. Don't know how much you interface your phone with your car, but the Motorola did not like Ford Sync.
I just upgraded a old Samsung J3V to a Samsung A54. The A54 is similar to the S22. I would recommend the Samsung A45 or Google Pixel 7.
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You have to be more specific. You can spend 100 or 1000. "Budget" could mean $75 or $500?
My wife still uses an Iphone7. Its on the latest software rev and the battery still lasts OK. So they can last a long time.
I have the Iphone 13 - company issued. Only reason I went up is my 6S quit - actually pretty sure it was just the sim but the battery was done also.
My daughter has a pixel - I think 7?? She likes it but she is a software guru and wouldn't be caught dead with a iphone. Other daughter has iphone 13 and loves the camera.
I actually will be getting an Android tablet so I can run Torque Pro, and I like being able to add the micro SD. As for daily use, IOS is probably better still though, even though I am not a fan of Apple, their controlling everything does make things easier sometimes.
Whats wrong with your old phone?
My wife still uses an Iphone7. Its on the latest software rev and the battery still lasts OK. So they can last a long time.
I have the Iphone 13 - company issued. Only reason I went up is my 6S quit - actually pretty sure it was just the sim but the battery was done also.
My daughter has a pixel - I think 7?? She likes it but she is a software guru and wouldn't be caught dead with a iphone. Other daughter has iphone 13 and loves the camera.
I actually will be getting an Android tablet so I can run Torque Pro, and I like being able to add the micro SD. As for daily use, IOS is probably better still though, even though I am not a fan of Apple, their controlling everything does make things easier sometimes.
Whats wrong with your old phone?
Yep. "Budget" is in the wallet of the beholder.
I've been using a Moto G Power for the past 2+ years - incredible battery life and reception at an affordable price, also custom ROM friendly. However, the massive size of it, and so many new phones is a PITA.
Recently I switched to a used Pixel 5. It's considerably smaller and can be (and now is) loadedwith GrapheneOS for security & privacy.
I've been using a Moto G Power for the past 2+ years - incredible battery life and reception at an affordable price, also custom ROM friendly. However, the massive size of it, and so many new phones is a PITA.
Recently I switched to a used Pixel 5. It's considerably smaller and can be (and now is) loadedwith GrapheneOS for security & privacy.
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The Pixel 7a is a great choice... it's an easier transition from an iPhone than a Samsung (there's a reason they call it the iPhone of the Android world), it has one of the best cameras in any class, it has some of the longest support out there for an Android, and the price for what you're getting is amazingly low... especially if you find a sale, which are usually happening either on Google's site or one of the retailers.
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Lenovo (Motorola) is the only Chinese brand I'd still hesitatingly trust. I probably won't be buying any more, but they make solid hardware for a budget price. The budget models aren't the fastest, cameras are average, it's an average to below average experience depending on what you buy. And the software support is lacking.
But they get the job done, and usually do it for a long time... not bad for a cheap phone that still behaves like a real smartphone. Plus if you shop sales you can pick them up stupid cheap.
i had the first moto g, it was amazing for its time. back then phones in that price range were terrible. now i have a 14+, had a xr for five years before that. iphones while expensive are really good about support for a long time. that is one plus of the walled garden.
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LG Velvet 5g on eBay is in the $250 range new. There are unlocked, T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T variants. They will update to Android 12 and possibly 13. Excellent phone.
i have been rocking this phone for almost a year. other than a bad charge port, which they repaired in a week., its been solid. the one neg is the camera is kinda slow, but i don't take too many pix so don't matter to me
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Like someone else mentioned, if the OP has been using iPhones, unless he purposely wants to move to an Android, I'd suggest sticking with what you're comfortable with. They're both good devices that get the job done just fine 
PS- I decided to address the original post directly (it's below), so forgive me for this slightly redundant one
PS- I decided to address the original post directly (it's below), so forgive me for this slightly redundant one
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It can be hard to get a good, budget smartphone.. you either get "good" or "budget", but rarely both. Motorola's budget phones will disappoint you coming from an iPhone.
If you really want to try Android the best budget phone out there imo is the Pixel 7a...it can be picked up cheap on sale almost any time, it runs stock Android and is the easiest to learn on (it's referred to as the iPhone of the Android world), plus it has a class leading camera and all the cool Pixel stuff like automatic call screening with the Google Assistant, and automatic spam call filtering with the Assistant, and you don't have to lift a finger.. it does it all for you.
That same feature on my higher end Pixel cut my spam calls down to zero, and I was getting a lot
But honestly, if you're used to an iPhone I'd stick with that... they're both good devices that do the same thing, which is do what a modern smartphone should do. No need to change unless you're looking for something different.
I've never understood the whole us vs them when it comes to smartphones though, or anything else for that matter, which threads like this often turn into ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They're just tools like anything else... designed to get a job done. I'm not as concerned about the tool as long as it gets the job done satisfactorily for me. I've got more important things to focus on than taking sides over a tool
But then people seem to need something to fight about.. regardless of what it is.
I think they call it the human condition
One thing that Android allows is more access into the internals when it comes to WIFI interrogation. I use WIFIMAN to analyze the WIFI in some buildings and the amount of information WIFIMAN can pull is significantly more from an Android phone that an iPhone. The iPhone has some things locked down and WIFIMAN can not access all the data it needs.
