Dealership service experience

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My best friend's '07 Tahoe Z71 was due in for service, and he wants the dealership to take care of it. His logic is beyond me, but he says complaints can be handled easier as opposed to some of the other, smaller garages. Different strokes.

So we rung up the dealership yesterday morning and booked an appointment for this afternoon. Booking the appointment was another pain, because I was told they close at 15:30. So we booked what we were told was the 'last' appointment.

My buddy finishes work at 17:00. Since I finish before him, I took the Tahoe and gave him my Grand Marquis to pick me up at 17:30ish somewhere by the dealership. When I showed up, it turns out they close at 18:00 and not 15:30. We were misinformed. Phoned him up, and asked him to pick me up at the dealership instead.

Drive into the service bay, where the service adviser has a cabin you park next to. Guy comes out, and starts to sort out the Camaro behind me so I wait for 15 minutes. Then another guy comes up and fills in the paperwork, whilst I prepare the vehicle (fitting a plastic seat and steering wheel cover). Service adviser finishes with the Camaro, and supposedly starts to sort me out. Then another guy walks into the booth, and another 15 minutes is wasted.

Roughly 45 minutes later, we're finally processing my booking. I ask for Mobil 1 5W-30 used in the Corvette, a new oil filter and tire rotation. He also wanted an alignment done, since he had some wear on the other edges of the right front tire.

One adviser tries to sell me Forte Engine Flush, which I decline, but they write it down anyway. The guy told me it was about $27.60 for the flush service, but then I look at the estimation sheet and see the local equalivant of $82.80. So I ask what on earth that is, and the guy says I need 3 flushes. I lose my temper a bit, but politely tell him I have declined the flushing service. I just want Mobil 1 5W-30 to be used and not the API SL rated 20W-50 or LongLife-98 rated 5W-40 synthetic. He starts jotting it down.

Next, he recommends a transmission drain and refill. The service manual recommends a transmission service with Dexron VI at 80,000 kilometers. These guys lured my friend into a transmission cooler line flush at 70,000 kilometers and want to do a drain and refill with only 20,000 kilometers on the oil? Decline.

His next effort is a cooling system flush. Service manual recommends this at the 240,000 kilometer mark (with Dexcool), and my buddy's budget was only limited to the oil change, alignment and tire rotation. Decline.

Then he finishes the estimation sheet and this is exactly what it looks like:

- Oil change with Mobil 1 and new air filter as per customer request: $225
- Alignment as per customer request: $68.95
- Tire rotation as requested by customer: no charge

The $225 charge for such a simple service is mind blowing, and I personally wouldn't pay such a stupid sum. But I call my buddy, explain the charges and he says go ahead and sign. Personally I would never pay $300 for something like this, and it's not like I'm getting a Bugatti or some million dollar car serviced here. Don't think even the Ferrari dealership charges this much for an oil change!

Before leaving, I ask the adviser when they last replaced the power steering fluid, transfer case fluid and differential lubricants, since they are so overly obsessed with changing everything due to 'extreme' weather conditions. His response was never. My response was "So you try and sell me all these services long before they are due, but you never change other vital fluids?" He looked so confused, and I just left.
 
Doesn't sound much different than an American dealer service dept
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Originally Posted By: ctc
Doesn't sound much different than an American dealer service dept
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You got that right!
 
You can't blame the service writer for that nonsense.

Those working stiffs are under alot of pressure to make their weekly or monthly sales numbers and if they don't one too many times, its goodbye charlie.
Its underhanded but guys are just trying to make a living so don't take it personal from the little guy. Get angry at the guy whos name is on the sign. Hes the one who demands people give up their scruples for a wage.
 
I had a very unusual dealer routine service experience on my Toyota in Auburn CA last week.

The service adviser met me as I got out of the car, said he would get the information while I checked in inside. Walked right up to the counter and gave that guy my name. He printed out the sheet showing what service I needed. It agreed exactly with the manual, no upsell attempts.

Got a free shuttle ride to a nearby restaurant, had breakfast, had the shuttle pick me up.

Car was done when I got back, charge was $0.00 since it was a "freebie" when I bought the car.

Next oil change due sticker in the windshield was for the factory recommended interval instead of the common 3k mile interval many dealers push.

I addition to the unusual behavior listed above, everyone was courteous and friendly.

What is wrong with those people? Don't they realize they have car dealership's service departments reputations to uphold?
 
Originally Posted By: XS650


I addition to the unusual behavior listed above, everyone was courteous and friendly.

What is wrong with those people? Don't they realize they have car dealership's service departments reputations to uphold?


I've had similar experiences with a Toyota dealership in Carlsbad, Ca. One time I made an appointment for my wife's car (Camry) for oil change and wheel alignment. When my wife took it in they talked her OUT of the alignment.
I called them back and said I want the alignment done. When they asked why I said because it was pulling to the right. The service adviser laughed and said he asked my wife if it pulled one way or another and she said she didn't think so!
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(Which was true - that's what she told him). She's the one that always drives it - go figure that she didn't notice the pull to the right side!

So he said they would do it but if there was any signs of abuse we would have to pay for it. I agreed since I had figured on paying for it in the first place. This was about 2 years or more after we bought it.

They said there was no sign of abuse and aligned it at no charge.

They also always offer to wash and vacuum the car for free! FWIW, the local Chevy and Ford dealerships have never offered that.

Edit: My local Ford dealership tried to charge me over 1200 to change a heater hose. This was on my Aerostar. I was having back problems and didn't feel like doing it!
I told them no way and when they finally found the keys I drove it home and did it myself a couple of weeks later. Turns out it wasn't the heater hose but the heater valve where the hose connected. Cost of part - 19.00 at Kragen and about half an hour of my time.
 
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Originally Posted By: XS650
I had a very unusual dealer routine service experience on my Toyota in Auburn CA last week.

The service adviser met me as I got out of the car, said he would get the information while I checked in inside. Walked right up to the counter and gave that guy my name. He printed out the sheet showing what service I needed. It agreed exactly with the manual, no upsell attempts.

Got a free shuttle ride to a nearby restaurant, had breakfast, had the shuttle pick me up.

Car was done when I got back, charge was $0.00 since it was a "freebie" when I bought the car.

Next oil change due sticker in the windshield was for the factory recommended interval instead of the common 3k mile interval many dealers push.

I addition to the unusual behavior listed above, everyone was courteous and friendly.

What is wrong with those people? Don't they realize they have car dealership's service departments reputations to uphold?

I had similar experiences with my free schedule maintenance during the first 4 years at my MB dealer.

I called ahead to schedule oil change plus other schedule maintenance paid for by MB. As soon as I got there, the service adviser met me within 1-2 minutes, I gave him my name then went to customer lounge to get free espresso/cappucino. Within 5-6 minutes he walked in and escorted me to his office to sign some paper works plus free car rental for a day (C-Class).

I went back in the evening to return rental car and pick up the car that had been serviced and washed/vacuumed without any cost. MB USA paid for all scheduled maintenance such as oil + filter, coolant flush, brake flush ... (except tires, brake pads, wiper blades ...) for 4 years-50k miles. They never tried to up-sell anything.
 
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: ctc
Doesn't sound much different than an American dealer service dept
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You got that right!


I agree...Sounds like all the car stealerships in Broward and Miami Dade County.
 
Originally Posted By: CROWNVIC4LIFE
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: ctc
Doesn't sound much different than an American dealer service dept
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You got that right!


I agree...Sounds like all the car stealerships in Broward and Miami Dade County.



I pray that one day GM (and others) would just take over the retail and service part of the business and for once - eliminate the privately owned dealerships! Quality of service to the customer could be better controlled. Right now, the average person thinks the Chevy dealer is really "GM" - when it's not at all....so GM gets the bad rep for bad service.
 
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Originally Posted By: highmilegeguy
You can't blame the service writer for that nonsense.

Those working stiffs are under alot of pressure to make their weekly or monthly sales numbers and if they don't one too many times, its goodbye charlie.
Its underhanded but guys are just trying to make a living so don't take it personal from the little guy. Get angry at the guy whos name is on the sign. Hes the one who demands people give up their scruples for a wage.


Actually the advisers get paid a monthly salary here, more than the service technician who actually carry out the work! The only additional pay is overtime, which again is rather generous.

I wasn't angry at the recommendations per say. But 3 engine flushes? That is just over the top and unnecessary.

Originally Posted By: XS650
I had a very unusual dealer routine service experience on my Toyota in Auburn CA last week.

The service adviser met me as I got out of the car, said he would get the information while I checked in inside. Walked right up to the counter and gave that guy my name. He printed out the sheet showing what service I needed. It agreed exactly with the manual, no upsell attempts.

Got a free shuttle ride to a nearby restaurant, had breakfast, had the shuttle pick me up.

Car was done when I got back, charge was $0.00 since it was a "freebie" when I bought the car.

Next oil change due sticker in the windshield was for the factory recommended interval instead of the common 3k mile interval many dealers push.

I addition to the unusual behavior listed above, everyone was courteous and friendly.

What is wrong with those people? Don't they realize they have car dealership's service departments reputations to uphold?


I'm not implying all dealerships are the same. The GMC dealer, where my buddy can also get his truck services and refuses to, offers an excellent level of service. When you make an appointment, they text you the date and time after the call and a few hours before you are supposed to come in. When you get there, the adviser checks your service history, offers you refreshments, and informs you on what is needed this time round based on a chart from GM. They also use the correct motor oil (ILSAC certified ACDelco 10W-30) and not the 20W-50 syrup the Chevrolet dealer uses by default. So it depends on where you go.

The Chevrolet dealer invested in a very expensive flashy service premises and I suppose all the extra services are to cover the cost of building the place.

Originally Posted By: DT466E_bus
You need to have a long talk with your friend...


I tried. His logic is, if something goes wrong I have GM to complain to. So it's like getting blood out of a stone.

Originally Posted By: mailman74

- Oil change with Mobil 1 and new air filter as per customer request: $225

WOW!!!


Exactly. Mobil 1 0W-40 costs $12 per liter at the Mobil 1 distributor. If you were to buy 6 liters of the stuff from them, that's $72. Add $3 for the oil filter and $10 for the air filter, that brings the grand total to $85. $140 in labor charges? I'll pass.
 
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I pray that one day GM (and others) would just take over the retail and service part of the business and for once - eliminate the privately owned dealerships! Quality of service to the customer could be better controlled. Right now, the average person thinks the Chevy dealer is really "GM" - when it's not at all....so GM gets the bad rep for bad service.


I hope so too. With the GM ties and stuff these service advisers are wearing, they sure try to live up to it as well. One mistake by these guys, and GM pays the price.

Either that or GM and other manufacturers come up with a scheme to rigorously monitor customer service at these dealerships. Something along the lines of a mystery customer.
 
I to have done the dealership thing,,,now I dont,,,but just for alignment only,,now hear this,,,things I have done,,,,go by az or aap or napa and ask for a reccommendation on a local car repair place,,if all 3 give the same reference most likely the reference is good,,well it worked for me,,,now I have 2 places to get work done and it is a relief to find folks that care.
 
Who would have thought NO means something different in Kuwait?

I can almost hear my dad saying...

What part of NO don't you understand - the N or the O?
 
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Originally Posted By: DT466E_bus
You need to have a long talk with your friend...

If he's got that much dough, he can adopt me. I don't eat much and I learn new tricks with ease.
 
I took my 09 grand cherokee in for hesitation. Handed him my keys. Didnt sign anything. 8hours later I called and he confirmed the problem but had no solution yet. They had talked to the techs in the US and wanted another day to run more tests. Next day they called to say the problem was bad gas. I could pick up the car.

No charge.
 
Alright, had it with this dealership I want to make a formal complaint to General Motors.

When we took the vehicle in, we requested the transfer case fluid to be replaced and the service writer was unable to give us a quote. He promised he would call back the next day (yesterday) to tell us how much it would cost. Promised delivery date is 3 PM on 3 February.

We never received a call yesterday, so we call the dealership. The phone is picked up and put back down, so they hang up without even answering.

Service writer calls my friend at 2:45 PM today, and tell him it is going to cost $172 to replace the transfer case fluid. My friend tells him he will call him back in 15 minutes, as he was about to enter a meeting with his boss who is going on a business trip. Service writer tells him he will call back on Saturday, without listening to a word my friend had to say, and hangs up. It's now 4:55 PM.

Although I'm going to see the Service Manager in a few minutes, I want General Motors to know just how they are being represented by these morons.
 
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