I suggested in another thread to split the difference. Jump 30 minutes forward this spring and be done with it
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I have worked 40 years of 12hr rotating shifts. 3am to 3pm, then 3pm to 3am, then repete. Later the shift relief times were changed to 4am-4pm.
All in all, the DST is irrelevent to me. If I survived 40 years of twelve hour rotations, switching in and out of DST is really nothing to me.
I laugh when people whine about a one or two hour jet lag. I tell them my shift work is like flying back and forth to China, twice a week for 40 years.
All in all, the DST is irrelevent to me. If I survived 40 years of twelve hour rotations, switching in and out of DST is really nothing to me.
I laugh when people whine about a one or two hour jet lag. I tell them my shift work is like flying back and forth to China, twice a week for 40 years.
Software wise, permanentaly disabling DST or enabling it, is easier than coming up with a new offset. The latter requires software changes, rather than an an enabe/disable option which likely is already there. It could impact a LOT of devices. Best to avoid that.
You do get used to it. I adjusted fine to China jet lag. I just hated going and coming back in the dark. There was no adjustment to that!
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The upcoming change to DST may be the last time change for Utah.
The Utah House overwhelmingly passed a bill to stay on Standard Time year round. But it may not pass the Senate, where a similar bill failed in 2022. We will see. (Please, no political commentary on my comments. I'm just stating current status of what may happen here in Utah, re. the thread's topic, and don't want this to get in trouble.)
I have mixed emotions about going away from the change. While I admit that the transition, from ST to DST and vice versa, is hard on our bodies, I really do like the time of the day that we have with each. During the summer months, I really do enjoy the long evenings. And during the winter, while the evening may be short, it is nice to have sunrise at a respectable hour.
If I had to pick one over the other, I would go with year round ST. I think it makes a lot more sense. Admittedly, the shorter summer evening will be a loss. But the time can be picked up by enjoying beautiful morning hours. So I am glad that if the bill passes in Utah, it will be permanent ST. Unfortunately, this will put Utah permanently out of sync with our wonderful neighboring state of Arizona, which is on permanent DST.
I feel for those that will have to do interstate business. When I lived in Kentucky, which follows the ST/DST norm, I did a lot of church business with Indiana, which, if I recall correctly, at the time, followed the ST/DST change in the Eastern time zone, and stayed permanently on DST in the portion of the state that was in the Central time zone. I believe Indiana has changed the line that divides the Eastern and Central time zones since then.
The Utah House overwhelmingly passed a bill to stay on Standard Time year round. But it may not pass the Senate, where a similar bill failed in 2022. We will see. (Please, no political commentary on my comments. I'm just stating current status of what may happen here in Utah, re. the thread's topic, and don't want this to get in trouble.)
I have mixed emotions about going away from the change. While I admit that the transition, from ST to DST and vice versa, is hard on our bodies, I really do like the time of the day that we have with each. During the summer months, I really do enjoy the long evenings. And during the winter, while the evening may be short, it is nice to have sunrise at a respectable hour.
If I had to pick one over the other, I would go with year round ST. I think it makes a lot more sense. Admittedly, the shorter summer evening will be a loss. But the time can be picked up by enjoying beautiful morning hours. So I am glad that if the bill passes in Utah, it will be permanent ST. Unfortunately, this will put Utah permanently out of sync with our wonderful neighboring state of Arizona, which is on permanent DST.
I feel for those that will have to do interstate business. When I lived in Kentucky, which follows the ST/DST norm, I did a lot of church business with Indiana, which, if I recall correctly, at the time, followed the ST/DST change in the Eastern time zone, and stayed permanently on DST in the portion of the state that was in the Central time zone. I believe Indiana has changed the line that divides the Eastern and Central time zones since then.
I had a good plan. Get in bed by 4am or 5am coming off night shifts, while still fully dark. I never wanted to see the sun so my internal clock would not try to reset. I installed light blocking shades for the bedroom windows, so when I slept until noon or so I still woke up in a dark room. Having an upstairs bedroom helped with noise reduction.
Before starting the night shifts, the two days before I would progressivly stay up later another hour or two, trying to ease in to the shift.
Coming off the night shifts, I would try to rise at 11am, then 9 am the next day, easing back to day life. All things considered, I did the best I could.
I realize that but we are not here to please AI……oops
I am thinking of compromising for people.
Please AI? What are you talking about?
I'm talking about avoiding tens of millions / billions of dollars being spent for a mini repeat of Y2K. If we can find a solution that doesn't need software edits in nearly every piece of software, that'd be great.
I'm talking about avoiding tens of millions / billions of dollars being spent for a mini repeat of Y2K. If we can find a solution that doesn't need software edits in nearly every piece of software, that'd be great.
That's why I like the twice yearly time change.
DST. I can do without 3:30am June sunrises.
So serious. It's almost like any of this will be followed.
AI mention was a joke, but you are so serious. AI can solve all our problems. Never mind.
It's almost like you assumed I didn't understand what you typed. I did, and it's a reasonable concern. Carry on, I just say pick either and stop the change. People don't like one or the other, but hate the change more?
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yes, you're having trouble separating the idea of trigger vs event; you're already seriously in trouble if waking up an hour early causes you health issues. In this case, getting up early might be a trigger for your serious health issues, but so might walking up the stairs or watching something political on TV, or eating too much on Christmas or drinking too much on NYE or getting up early for your vacation.
Nobody suggests those other triggers as being a problem, but just because one dislikes the idea of DST suddenly getting up early is a cause for concern. It's disingenuous.
The eastern part of the state (Grand Forks and Fargo) would experience their latest sunset around the summer solstice at around 9:30 p.m. (Edit: I looked it up - latest sunset in eastern ND is 9:37 p.m. in Pembina.)
Sunset would be later in the western part of the state. (Edit: Williston, in western ND, has its latest sunset at 9:58 p.m.)
I don't care which way, I just want the time changing to stop. I have a 7 year old daughter with severe autism. She has a very set routine and her biological clock couldn't care less what the clock on the wall says. Thus, every time change is a nightmare for a couple weeks getting her adjusted to the new schedule. I dread it.
Good point, I never thought of that. I'll ask my friend whose son has a degree of autism (early 20s, works for a company that makes accommodations for him, may or may not be able to live independently at some point, spends his leisure time playing computer games) whether the seasonal time changes are hard on his son.
I have heard that traffic accidents and workplace accidents go way up for a few days after the time changes.
Have you tried starting a 10 minute adjustment to the routine about a week out, so that when the clock changes it has already become the "new" normal?
Y2K 2.0
Standard Time forever.
DST was tried YEAR round back (around) 1973. People HATED it.
Mothers of school children HATED IT EVEN MORE. Look it up.
Stupid to use the time of the Timezone to your East.
Arizona does it right.
DST was tried YEAR round back (around) 1973. People HATED it.
Mothers of school children HATED IT EVEN MORE. Look it up.
Stupid to use the time of the Timezone to your East.
Arizona does it right.
