Daylight Savings Time

[shortyb]

Guess this comes up every year about this time (no pun ) when we have to adjust the clocks. And everything else. This is NOT to be anything Political, but there have been several mentions of a permanent time one way or the other. I personally would like to see that because the change twice a year causes lots of disruption and subsequent health issues. It is similar to when I used to work shifts that changed every few weeks or so. There have been studies that concluded switching up often was not so good for someone physically, and that permanent shifts were better from that standpoint. Now, which is better? DST or Standard Time? Pros and cons to each, but MY preference is for permanent DST. I absolutely love that the sun doesn't go down until like 9PM in the summertime and can spend time outside, in the sunlight, longer. Winter I hibernate anyway (especially now with retirement) And get up when it's dark almost everyday so thats moot for me. Plus, it just seems like so much time is "wasted" waiting for the day to get started. Sorry to take up so much TIME with the long post .

 

[Danno]

I would prefer DST all year.
The biggest argument against is kids would be in the darkness going to school. So move school back an hour. They're going home at 3pm right now as it is. Maybe school unions would be against it but it would give students an extra hour of sleep.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Get rid of it. It makes no sense. If companies or schools really want to change business hours by season then they can have at it.

 

[Propflux01]

DST affects those at higher points on the continent than lower. In Winter, people in Detroit wouldn't see daylight till 9-10 AM, while those in New Orleans would see it much earlier. Would kinda suck having no light until 10 AM.

 

[shortyb]

I would prefer DST all year.
The biggest argument against is kids would be in the darkness going to school. So move school back an hour. They're going home at 3pm right now as it is. Maybe school unions would be against it but it would give students an extra hour of sleep.

In my neighborhood, there was always a lot of complaining of kids waiting for the bus in darkness when time changed. Solution? We installed 2 VERY bright lightpoles at the bus stops. But it really didn't matter because you never saw any kids standing around waiting anyway. Every one of them was safe in a nice warm car, idling away waiting for the bus. Back when I went to school I had to...............

 

[rszappa1]

I vote for standard time year round...get ride of DST....

 

[AutoMechanic]

I want the one where daylight is till around 9. I hate short days. But I also hate driving home in rush hour and the sun being in my eyes almost making me run into someone. I personally don’t want any changes but if I had to pick one I guess permanently where it gets dark at 9.

 

[Marlin39a]

Here in Arizona, we don’t play the clock game. Except for the Navajo Nation.

 

[BISCUT]

In my neighborhood, there was always a lot of complaining of kids waiting for the bus in darkness when time changed. Solution? We installed 2 VERY bright lightpoles at the bus stops. But it really didn't matter because you never saw any kids standing around waiting anyway. Every one of them was safe in a nice warm car, idling away waiting for the bus. Back when I went to school I had to...............

Weak argument. Adults use "caring" for kids to sway the message. I'm glad you didn't bite!

 

[tbm5690]

A bill to keep ND on CST passed in the House, we will see what the Senate does with it. Instead of 10:30pm sunsets in the middle of summer it would be 9:30...bummer! Kids here go to school in the dark anyways, and add to that in temps well below zero some mornings. The little ducklings will survive.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Weak argument. Adults use "caring" for kids to sway the message. I'm glad you didn't bite!

The elementary kids here get on the bus at 6:00AM - in the dark most of the time - due to bussing.

My kids did it too when they were young. They get home around 2. So yes, "for the children" doesn't work for me either.

DST affects those at higher points on the continent than lower. In Winter, people in Detroit wouldn't see daylight till 9-10 AM, while those in New Orleans would see it much earlier. Would kinda suck having no light until 10 AM.

The shortest Day in Detroit this year sunrise at 8:01 and sunset at 5:00. So you can drive to work in the dark, or drive home in the dark - your pick. The day is simply too short. Forcing the rest of the country into something doesn't solve the problem.

I have no problem with individual states making there own DST laws.

 

[CharBaby]

Because of where I live, I like DST and I am biased because it works for me. I realize that it would work differently in other parts of the country and I have witnessed it first hand. But, I don't live in those areas. I love when I can see the sun coming up around 5am and not setting til after 9pm. I love that!

 

[CharBaby]

I also agree that working one shift is more healthy than working shift work(although some may enjoy shift/trick work).
Of my 42 years working in factorys(and I've worked longer than that), I have done many shifts straight and rotating. However, the last 35 years straight, I worked the afternoon shift(3pm-11pm) in various positions in my career. My overtime would either be 11am-11pm or 3pm-3am which was my preference. Not that I loved getting out of work at 3am(especially in winter), however, I enjoyed my mornings at home.

Prior to working in a factory(for 2 large corporations), I worked with my dad in his gas station business and with my closest uncle(mother's brother) in his construction business, before going into manufacturing.

 

[Kira]

Benjamin Franklin was said to have thought of it...
It wasn't adopted until the onset of WW1 (iirc)....
Does anyone know the arguments both for and against it?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Guess this comes up every year about this time (no pun ) when we have to adjust the clocks. And everything else. This is NOT to be anything Political, but there have been several mentions of a permanent time one way or the other. I personally would like to see that because the change twice a year causes lots of disruption and subsequent health issues. It is similar to when I used to work shifts that changed every few weeks or so. There have been studies that concluded switching up often was not so good for someone physically, and that permanent shifts were better from that standpoint. Now, which is better? DST or Standard Time? Pros and cons to each, but MY preference is for permanent DST. I absolutely love that the sun doesn't go down until like 9PM in the summertime and can spend time outside, in the sunlight, longer. Winter I hibernate anyway (especially now with retirement) And get up when it's dark almost everyday so thats moot for me. Plus, it just seems like so much time is "wasted" waiting for the day to get started. Sorry to take up so much TIME with the long post .

Standard time is the best from a health perspective. DST is the best for some businesses because the extra daylight is shifted towards the end of the day where people will have the opportunity to spend $$ on leisure.

Not all states participate in DST (ex, AZ, Hawaii)

 

[Cropduster172]

Guess this comes up every year about this time (no pun ) when we have to adjust the clocks. And everything else. This is NOT to be anything Political, but there have been several mentions of a permanent time one way or the other. I personally would like to see that because the change twice a year causes lots of disruption and subsequent health issues. It is similar to when I used to work shifts that changed every few weeks or so. There have been studies that concluded switching up often was not so good for someone physically, and that permanent shifts were better from that standpoint. Now, which is better? DST or Standard Time? Pros and cons to each, but MY preference is for permanent DST. I absolutely love that the sun doesn't go down until like 9PM in the summertime and can spend time outside, in the sunlight, longer. Winter I hibernate anyway (especially now with retirement) And get up when it's dark almost everyday so thats moot for me. Plus, it just seems like so much time is "wasted" waiting for the day to get started. Sorry to take up so much TIME with the long post .

Anybody that says they like working rotating shifts in law enforcement, is mentally ill or lying. Fact. It became more tolerable when we switched to working four/10s...with 3 days off. But it still sucked.
I agree about the clock touching. It's an archaic thing from the 50s-60s, something about kids getting on and off school buses as I recall.A lot of stupid ideas came out of that time period. Also, I don't care if it's dark when I get up but I love having it light until 2000 hrs or so.

 

[Shel_B]

[...] because the change twice a year causes lots of disruption and subsequent health issues. =

I'm curious what those disruptions and health issues might be. I've not experienced any.

 

[Pablo]

We simply do not need DST. Kill it. now.

 

[OFFRD]

Looks like the bill isn't moving. So we'll probably get stuck with having to keep changing clocks. Sigh....

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/s29

I prefer DST. I, like most people, work from 7:00 to 15:00 each day, so I couldn't care less when the sun rises. But, I DO care when it sets because that's my time to get work at home done (mowing, cutting trees, any number of chores) and it's also my time to enjoy recreation on weekends. I do not understand how the proponents of standard time think. How can you actually enjoy darkness earlier after work?

Also, there's always been an argument for farmers. Fact is, farmers don't care. They work based upon daylight, not clocks.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Looks like the bill isn't moving. So we'll probably get stuck with having to keep changing clocks. Sigh....

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/s29

I prefer DST. I, like most people, work from 7:00 to 15:00 each day, so I couldn't care less when the sun rises. But, I DO care when it sets because that's my time to get work at home done (mowing, cutting trees, any number of chores) and it's also my time to enjoy recreation on weekends. I do not understand how the proponents of standard time think. How can you actually enjoy darkness earlier after work?

Also, there's always been an argument for farmers. Fact is, farmers don't care. They work based upon daylight, not clocks.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7302868/
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