Cybertruck now priced starting at $75,000
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Really? With how little the Muskrat listens to the engineers I think it's absolutely feasible that this late in the game things like crash testing or (passing said crash tests) haven't happened or weren't satisfactory for a sign off. I seem to recall last year that everything needed yokes because # racecar. What about his supposed genius idea that radar is a "crutch" and that cameras are awesome all while engineers are telling and showing him how absolutely stupid that sounds and is. Remember something like half of Tesla's most experienced engineers have jumped ship for Apple, Rivian, Lucid, BMW over the last two to three years because the dingbat at the top is too full of himself to listen.
There are some stories and videos about the Cybertruck going through crash testing earlier this year. Unfortunately the videos don’t include the actual crash or what the vehicle looked like afterwards. So it’s either 50/50 that these are fake news or they didn’t want the public to see the results. Maybe that’s normal until the testing agency finishes their report?
In either case transparency is key
I'm curious. I think exoskeleton may just be a catch phrase because it certainly isn't true if it has proper crumple zones. It has to be a glorified unibody which is fine, but false advertising if that is the case.
From what I have seen with most car assembly, they use different steels in strategic places. That plus design is how they can achieve crumple zones that pass safety standards. If a body or chassis is all one piece then how they manage that same safety is something I don’t know about.
Oh that's definitely true, but they touted this exoskeleton approach. I don't know that is a proper term for it if it passes crash standards. Sounds like a unibody if that is the case.
It’s definitely not an “exoskeleton”, as once claimed. It appears closest to a Model Y. Front and rear Giga Castings, stamped steel occupant structure/door openings. Still unsure about rear 1/4 panels, but fronts just appear to be stainless sheets bolted on, just like any unibody vehicle.
Even appears to have plain stamped steel brackets between the front casting and front quarters.
Even appears to have plain stamped steel brackets between the front casting and front quarters.
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What is the definition of "exoskeleton" in automotive term anyways? If none then it just means it is a marketing term.
I still think the whole reason we have this cybertruck is to help economy of scale in the SpaceX rockets, and if it is the case using multiple kinds of steel is not going to happen, and they have to come up with crash safety a different way than the traditional crumble zone with different steels.
I'm sure they have to get that design right, maybe decorative stainless on Styrofoam? The biggest problem would probably be that 10 micron spec, just ridiculous for a truck and eventually driving would either bent the body or crack it. They would likely have to redesign it enough to tolerate it, maybe the style has to change for that and that's why Elon is fighting back.
It means the outer body panels are the frame. That's not possible if it is to be a street legal vehicle to pass crash standards. That leads me to believe it's a unibody if it has traditional crumple zones and considering how these standards have tightened, I don't see how it could be anything else. If I happen to be wrong, I'll admit it. I just don't see how it would be possible.
It would be like a car that has to be filled with putty then sand and painted at the rear quarter, and the "body panel" has to be not too stiff so it can bent. It can be done but that means it will have to be 1) not too much load bearing or it won't crumble and 2) you pretty much total the body if you get into any moderate accident and not repairable, and 3) your truck is relying mostly on the stiff bottom to stay rigid and the body is just a shell, like a blister pack on cardboard.
Which wouldn't be an exoskeleton because it has a crumple zone before the actual structure like every other unibody vehicle.
I really doubt that Tesla intends this vehicle to somehow subsidize the rockets.
The rockets as they currently exist will not exceed two figures of production and cost a few orders of magnitude more to produce than will this "truck", which will see six figure production.
The Tesla Model Y is one of the top rated vehicles in the required crash testing. The engineers know something about vehicle design and construction. It defies logic to speculate that the Cybertruck will be a poor performer, crash testing hasn't happened yet or the results were unsatisfactory. They are way to close to shipping vehicles to customers for that to be the case.
But it sure is fun to speculate about what a madman the Muskrat is right ?
But it sure is fun to speculate about what a madman the Muskrat is right ?
Being its years and years behind schedule and being its been years and years of excuses and delays, as well as news blackouts. I would say it's fair to speculate. Clearly Tesla has proven to be not taken at their word about product launches.
Tell me why I am wrong.
There is their word and then there is the reality. I’m not sure what happened here but I would guess Elon was holding in his anger.
Tesla Cybertruck Armour Glass test.
Was this design drawn in crayon by an ten year old boy?
Was the actual vehicle pictured assembled in someone's garage?
Not that this will matter.
I'll stick with my prediction that this monstrosity will see six figures in sales at $75K a pop easily.
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TSLA stock price. Their mission is not to build a truck, their mission is to get involuntary reoccurring revenue. They just don't promote their true/real mission. Looks like TSLA is right on track at locking in reoccurring revenue.
Tesla is still teasing a $25,000 econobox using LIFEPO4 or 25 cent sodium ion.
This is akin to the $35,000 Ford 150 lightning that never materialized
This one has been recorded/photographed in the wild multiple times
It's fair to speculate about a lot of things Tesla.
it's just plain ignorant to think that the Cybertruck hasn't already undergone the mandatory crash testing, performed poorly, or the results have been suppressed from the public.
We will see straight off the production line Cybertrucks on the road within the next few weeks. Given that the NHTSA has been weaponized against Elon in the past, do you think they would allow shipment of vehicles that hadn't passed all the required testing and regulations ? Sheesh
