Cuban cigars still restricted?
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Originally Posted By: expat
Personally I think it a little silly coming from a country that values 'Freedom'
Especially considering we import and outsource everything including the kitchen sink from communist china which we basically fought two proxy wars (Korean and to a degree Vietnam) with
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Personally I think it a little silly coming from a country that values 'Freedom'
Especially considering we import and outsource everything including the kitchen sink from communist china which we basically fought two proxy wars (Korean and to a degree Vietnam) with
The whole thing is silly in this day and age. I drive up to toronto, there are billboards all over the side of the highway for vacation homes to purchase in Cuba, or pictures of the beaches in Cuba.
The Canadians are buying up the whole island.
The Canadians are buying up the whole island.
Originally Posted By: JustinH
The whole thing is silly in this day and age. I drive up to toronto, there are billboards all over the side of the highway for vacation homes to purchase in Cuba, or pictures of the beaches in Cuba.
The Canadians are buying up the whole island.
Is that true? They are selling to Canadians?
I thought the whole purpose of the Cuban Revolution was to rid the island of the parasitic "economic colonialists" and restore the island to the Cuban people. (which of course didn't really work out that way...pretty consistant with other Marxist countries)
But apparently Canadian "economic colonialism" isn't quite as bad as their neighbors just to the south of Canada.
The whole thing is silly in this day and age. I drive up to toronto, there are billboards all over the side of the highway for vacation homes to purchase in Cuba, or pictures of the beaches in Cuba.
The Canadians are buying up the whole island.
Is that true? They are selling to Canadians?
I thought the whole purpose of the Cuban Revolution was to rid the island of the parasitic "economic colonialists" and restore the island to the Cuban people. (which of course didn't really work out that way...pretty consistant with other Marxist countries)
But apparently Canadian "economic colonialism" isn't quite as bad as their neighbors just to the south of Canada.
Best cigar I ever had was a Monte Cristo #2 Torpedo. It was obtained by someone on a cruise in the Bahamas and was given to me. It had all the correct band markings of being Cuban made, Habanos. I hope one day to be able to enjoy that smoke at least one more time.
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Is that true? They are selling to Canadians?
Canadians have been vacationing in Cuba forever; and I *think* it was one of Raul Castro's recent moves to allow the buying and selling of property. And yes, buying and selling of property is exactly what the revolution was supposed to prevent.
I don't know what in blazes they'd expect to happen once they opened up the buying and selling of property. No one on the flippin' island would have the "capital" to buy anything! It reminds me of a Romanian guy I used to work with. He lived under (I am not going to Google the son-of-a-gun's correct spelling, so here is comes phonetically
Chow-chess-koo and once told me that when the Soviet Bloc failed all of the property and means of production were scooped up by West Germans because no one in Romania, who had lived without the concept of capital for a few generations, either had any capital nor any knowledge of how to exploit it. The entire nation's productive infrastructure became foreign property; and the entire nation resumed their lives as indentured servitude, except without now owning collectively the means of production.
Is that true? They are selling to Canadians?
Canadians have been vacationing in Cuba forever; and I *think* it was one of Raul Castro's recent moves to allow the buying and selling of property. And yes, buying and selling of property is exactly what the revolution was supposed to prevent.
I don't know what in blazes they'd expect to happen once they opened up the buying and selling of property. No one on the flippin' island would have the "capital" to buy anything! It reminds me of a Romanian guy I used to work with. He lived under (I am not going to Google the son-of-a-gun's correct spelling, so here is comes phonetically
Chow-chess-koo and once told me that when the Soviet Bloc failed all of the property and means of production were scooped up by West Germans because no one in Romania, who had lived without the concept of capital for a few generations, either had any capital nor any knowledge of how to exploit it. The entire nation's productive infrastructure became foreign property; and the entire nation resumed their lives as indentured servitude, except without now owning collectively the means of production.I love how JFK bought as many boxes of Cuban cigars as he could, BEFORE engaging in actions in Cuba!
As I understand it, in the USA we could always get legal Cuban cigars, but they had to be routed through Canada or another country first.
As I understand it, in the USA we could always get legal Cuban cigars, but they had to be routed through Canada or another country first.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Best cigar I ever had was a Monte Cristo #2 Torpedo. It was obtained by someone on a cruise in the Bahamas and was given to me. It had all the correct band markings of being Cuban made, Habanos. I hope one day to be able to enjoy that smoke at least one more time.
Ah don't tell me that lol. I talked to my brother awhile ago and he said the Cuban cigars were Cohiba 3 of them in a wooden box. The guy that sold them to him wanted $45 but my brother talked him down to $25.
Best cigar I ever had was a Monte Cristo #2 Torpedo. It was obtained by someone on a cruise in the Bahamas and was given to me. It had all the correct band markings of being Cuban made, Habanos. I hope one day to be able to enjoy that smoke at least one more time.
Ah don't tell me that lol. I talked to my brother awhile ago and he said the Cuban cigars were Cohiba 3 of them in a wooden box. The guy that sold them to him wanted $45 but my brother talked him down to $25.
The way I would get them across the border when I worked in Detroit is that I would remove the labels. I think the Tampa made Cuban cigars are as good. Been a while.
Originally Posted By: sayjac
Best cigar I ever had was a Monte Cristo #2 Torpedo. It was obtained by someone on a cruise in the Bahamas and was given to me. It had all the correct band markings of being Cuban made, Habanos. I hope one day to be able to enjoy that smoke at least one more time.
I have to agree with you.
Best cigar I ever had was a Monte Cristo #2 Torpedo. It was obtained by someone on a cruise in the Bahamas and was given to me. It had all the correct band markings of being Cuban made, Habanos. I hope one day to be able to enjoy that smoke at least one more time.
I have to agree with you.
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
I love how JFK bought as many boxes of Cuban cigars as he could, BEFORE engaging in actions in Cuba!
As I understand it, in the USA we could always get legal Cuban cigars, but they had to be routed through Canada or another country first.
No it is illegal for Americans to buy them. It is illegal for us to buy them period even in other countries, it is just nearly impossible to enforce.
I love how JFK bought as many boxes of Cuban cigars as he could, BEFORE engaging in actions in Cuba!
As I understand it, in the USA we could always get legal Cuban cigars, but they had to be routed through Canada or another country first.
No it is illegal for Americans to buy them. It is illegal for us to buy them period even in other countries, it is just nearly impossible to enforce.
I forgot to add the caveats to the law.
When is it Legal to Import Cuban Cigars?
According to the U.S. Treasury Department, you can only bring Cuban cigars into the United States if you are returning directly from Cuba and your visit to Cuba was licensed. Examples of those who can be licensed to visit Cuba include the following:
Politicians
Cuban Americans
Journalists
Legitimate researchers
Athletes
Religious groups
Are There any Other Restrictions on Importing Cuban Cigars?
Yes. Returning from a licensed visit to Cuba is not the only requirement for importing Cuban cigars. Other requirements are:
The domestic value of the cigars cannot exceed $100
The cigars must be for personal use and not for resale.
When is it Legal to Import Cuban Cigars?
According to the U.S. Treasury Department, you can only bring Cuban cigars into the United States if you are returning directly from Cuba and your visit to Cuba was licensed. Examples of those who can be licensed to visit Cuba include the following:
Politicians
Cuban Americans
Journalists
Legitimate researchers
Athletes
Religious groups
Are There any Other Restrictions on Importing Cuban Cigars?
Yes. Returning from a licensed visit to Cuba is not the only requirement for importing Cuban cigars. Other requirements are:
The domestic value of the cigars cannot exceed $100
The cigars must be for personal use and not for resale.
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Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Is that true? They are selling to Canadians?
Canadians have been vacationing in Cuba forever; and I *think* it was one of Raul Castro's recent moves to allow the buying and selling of property. And yes, buying and selling of property is exactly what the revolution was supposed to prevent.
I don't know what in blazes they'd expect to happen once they opened up the buying and selling of property. No one on the flippin' island would have the "capital" to buy anything! It reminds me of a Romanian guy I used to work with. He lived under (I am not going to Google the son-of-a-gun's correct spelling, so here is comes phonetically Chow-chess-koo and once told me that when the Soviet Bloc failed all of the property and means of production were scooped up by West Germans because no one in Romania, who had lived without the concept of capital for a few generations, either had any capital nor any knowledge of how to exploit it. The entire nation's productive infrastructure became foreign property; and the entire nation resumed their lives as indentured servitude, except without now owning collectively the means of production.
Wow!
I can't say I'm surprised. Vietnam "threw off the yokes of decadent Western colonialism" and now they make underwear and socks for "decadent westerners" for western companies to buy at WalMart.
Back right where they started. Instead of the French, they work for Hanes and Fruit of the Loom.
Just a hypothesis; Could Raul Castro be using Canadian money to build resorts in hopes that the US lifts it's travel restrictions? With Mexico going the way it is, Havana could be the next Cancun. Just get the Chinese to set them up with a few airliners. Maybe get Hapag-Lloyd Cruises and Lufthansa on board to draw the German tourists out of Mexico.
Originally Posted By: Spazdog
Is that true? They are selling to Canadians?
Canadians have been vacationing in Cuba forever; and I *think* it was one of Raul Castro's recent moves to allow the buying and selling of property. And yes, buying and selling of property is exactly what the revolution was supposed to prevent.
I don't know what in blazes they'd expect to happen once they opened up the buying and selling of property. No one on the flippin' island would have the "capital" to buy anything! It reminds me of a Romanian guy I used to work with. He lived under (I am not going to Google the son-of-a-gun's correct spelling, so here is comes phonetically
Chow-chess-koo and once told me that when the Soviet Bloc failed all of the property and means of production were scooped up by West Germans because no one in Romania, who had lived without the concept of capital for a few generations, either had any capital nor any knowledge of how to exploit it. The entire nation's productive infrastructure became foreign property; and the entire nation resumed their lives as indentured servitude, except without now owning collectively the means of production.Wow!
I can't say I'm surprised. Vietnam "threw off the yokes of decadent Western colonialism" and now they make underwear and socks for "decadent westerners" for western companies to buy at WalMart.
Back right where they started. Instead of the French, they work for Hanes and Fruit of the Loom.
Just a hypothesis; Could Raul Castro be using Canadian money to build resorts in hopes that the US lifts it's travel restrictions? With Mexico going the way it is, Havana could be the next Cancun. Just get the Chinese to set them up with a few airliners. Maybe get Hapag-Lloyd Cruises and Lufthansa on board to draw the German tourists out of Mexico.
Cuba has had vacation resorts for ages, quite popular with Europeans as well as Canadians.
I don't think they really set their sites on Americans for $, least, I have never seen many Americans in Dominican republic, or other Carribean islands for that matter.
I understand that most Americans don't own a passport?
I don't think they really set their sites on Americans for $, least, I have never seen many Americans in Dominican republic, or other Carribean islands for that matter.
I understand that most Americans don't own a passport?
I know someone who works for the TSA, the love them. They confiscate them and smoke them themselves.
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