Craftsman OPE = garbage!

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A few months ago, my uncle was having troubles trying to start his [censored] leaf blower and asked if I could look at it. I confirmed it was getting spark, so I assumed it wasn’t getting fuel. I bought a new carb, installed it, and it still wouldn’t start. I sprayed starting fluid in the cylinder and still nothing. At this point, I KNEW it was getting spark and fuel, so the only thing left was compression. I tore the engine down, and sure enough, the piston ring was stuck in the groove and ground down until it was flush with the side of the piston. I could easily insert the piston in and out of the cylinder without having to compress the piston ring. I put it back together and told my uncle. He took it to the Sears repair center and they confirmed it was still under warranty, so they replaced the piston and ring for free. The blower is still working…for now.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago: MY Craftsman leaf blower (not my uncle's) broke the spring in the throttle lever, so the throttle kept falling down to idle and would stall the engine. The only way to fix it is to buy a whole new carb with a throttle lever attached. The one they sent me was slightly different, apparently they revised the levers (I wonder why…)

Fast forward to yesterday: About a week ago, my mother was using the blower and it simply died and wouldn’t start up again. She tried using it again yesterday, but it still wouldn’t start. The carb is new, but I sprayed starting fluid in it anyway. Still no go. Hmm…seems like I’ve ran into this problem before. I tore the engine down and sure enough there was hardly anything left of the piston ring.

Both blowers have always had the proper 40:1 mix of oil and fuel and were well maintained. Both of them barely made it 3 years before munching the piston rings and losing compression. My uncle’s last Craftsman leaf blower also only made it about 3 years. That, combined with starting problems since day one on mine, and the tube always falling out from vibration (I had to duct tape it in place), has turned me off of Craftsman OPE forever. I really wish I researched a little more before I bought it and I would’ve seen all the bad reviews online. Cheap, made in China garbage. Currently shopping around for an Echo or Stihl.


These pics were taken when I tore my uncle's blower apart. I didn't take any photos of mine.


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Score marks on cylinder wall:
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My Craftsman blower just quit this weekend. It will idle, but surges and dies at part and full throttle. I assume it's a carb issue, I haven't looked at it closely yet. Built in 1996, run every season, and probably has several hundred hours on it. For any entry level OPE, the secret is Mobil MX2T at 32:1 and midgrade fuel. Probably good advice for any 2 stroke OPE actually.
 
Craftsman is built for light duty use- at best. I would opt for a Stihl or Echo from a OPE dealer. I have learned my lesson with Craftsman OPE.
 
The rings look like they were made of butter. Pathetic.

Get yourself an Echo. Reasonably priced at top notch OPE.
 
Originally Posted By: beanoil
the secret is Mobil MX2T at 32:1 and midgrade fuel. Probably good advice for any 2 stroke OPE actually.


I actually also subscribe to this theory. I happen to believe the 40:1 and 50:1 recommendations are for emissions rather than for engine life.

I run 32:1 in my 50:1 Spec'd Stihl and Echo equipment and have never had a problem. I can afford the mildly leaner fuel condition created by changing this mix because I live at 4,000 ft above sea level.

I'd be interested in knowing what oil was used. I've been using the "Synthetic" premium Stihl 2 cycle mix, which I read somewhere was really good. I believe it says on the bottle that it is made by Castrol. Thanks for posting these pictures. I agree with your conclusion around chinese junk. Sure you save a few bucks up front, but with the time and parts you've thrown at this stuff, a Stihl seems like a bargain.

I fully expect my Stihl and Echo OPE to outlive me in my residential use, which has a real convenience value to me and is worth the extra money.
 
I've had cheap equipment before, and also prefer better quality, even for home use. I had old school Weed Eater string trimmers for YEARS, and those things wouldn't quit. I finally decided I wanted something lighter, and a little more powerful. I bought a $99 Bolens from Lowe's and it worked for a while, but something really tightened up in the engine, and it's nearly impossible to start. There's so much compression, the recoil starter spring will slip before you can turn the engine over fast enough to start it. I eventually tore into it one day and re-set the cheap coil spring back in the notch, and I think I even got it to run once, but then it slipped again and it's put away now.

I bought a used Echo GT-200R and it's run like a scalded monkey ever since I bought it. The Kioritz engine (http://tech.flygsw.org/echo_conversion.htm) is a nice piece, with needle bearings everywhere. The "chassis" is also much better quality compared with the Weed Eaters/Bolens: better shaft, better cables, better throttle trigger, etc. Even if bought new, the Echo is a better value than the discount brands.
 
Wow,My Craftsman died a few months ago and had spark but wouldn't run even with starter fluid.I took the powerhead off to give to a coworker for his various hovercraft projects figuring he would be able to fix it.It's still in my shed,I'll have to tare it down and see if it has the same problem.

I'll just re-ring it and give it to him.

Mine was about 6 years old and 40-1 synthetic oil and seafoamed the fuel every winter.Would usually start fine in the spring after a few pulls.
 
Forgot to mention it was a blower/vac combo.
Just replaced the impeller too.Too many rocks in the leaves lol.
 
I used to go through a $99 Craftsman blower every 2 years. Either the carb mounting screws broke off in the cylinder head, or the motor would lose compression for reasons unknown.

I got sick of throwing out $100 every 2 years!

I ponied up the bucks to buy a Stihl blower 6 years ago and it has been trouble-free ever since. You end up ahead money-wise in the long run.
 
Originally Posted By: gd9704
I used to go through a $99 Craftsman blower every 2 years. Either the carb mounting screws broke off in the cylinder head, or the motor would lose compression for reasons unknown.

I got sick of throwing out $100 every 2 years!

I ponied up the bucks to buy a Stihl blower 6 years ago and it has been trouble-free ever since. You end up ahead money-wise in the long run.



Yep. I've started to notice an issue with some of the craftsman lawn stuff recently.(buddy works at Sears)
 
Last year I had a craftsman blower chip and ring. It was running fine up until that point. It was 9 years old and I ran mostly M1 Racing 2T in it. Not to bad for a $99 blower. I don't think the new one will last as long based how they appeared to be tuned.
 
Ok, so you have a situation where the maker (PoulanPro) has to meet the EPA emmissions and these are fitted with a very restrictive catalyst muffler and the carb is set lean on the hi-speed needle. Add the fact that your mix oil (PoulanPro ?) coked the rings. Too much heat in the cylinder.

Very frustrating indeed. This has gotten much worse with the EPA in the last few years.

The only thing you can do is to remove the catalyst element and spark screen, then reset the carb mixture to give better lube and use a ester based mix oil that resists high temps better.
 
I wouldn't say all Sears/Craftsman OPE is junk, but I have to agree, their small hand-held 2 and 4 stroke stuff is just as junky as any other low-end stuff, if not worse.

You need to step up to higher quality for equipment like this. Not only will it operate and perform better for you, it's easier on the body. I've found the higher quality stuff to be better balanced, vibrate less and be more ergonomic. That's more important to me than the engine quality.

Joel
 
Most low end 2 strokes are garbage. Craftsman, Ryobi, Homelite, etc. are pretty much throw away equipment.

Go with Echo if you want something that will last.
 
I know, I've had the same Echo SRM-210 trimmer for the past 10 years and it still runs like brand new and is fantastic quality. I had a gift card to Sears and needed a blower, so I bought this thing. It was a bad mistake, but a learned lesson. I'm leaning towards a Stihl BG-86 as a replacement.
 
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Most low end 2 strokes are garbage. Craftsman, Ryobi, Homelite, etc. are pretty much throw away equipment.

Go with Echo if you want something that will last.


I have a Homelite weed whacker I bought new in 1988 so it is 22 years old. I trim 1/2 acre a week with it 6 months a year. It still runs like new and is built like a tank. When it dies I'm getting a Stihl because the newer Homelites are not like the one I have. The old Homelites were solid work horses that were amoung the best made in their day.
 
Originally Posted By: exranger06
I know, I've had the same Echo SRM-210 trimmer for the past 10 years and it still runs like brand new and is fantastic quality. I had a gift card to Sears and needed a blower, so I bought this thing. It was a bad mistake, but a learned lesson. I'm leaning towards a Stihl BG-86 as a replacement.


I just picked up the Stihl BG-86 and love it. The vibration is so much less than my old Echo PB200. And more cfm too.
 
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