Anybody know if this set has Chinese or American-made ratchets?
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00936220000P#reviewsWrap
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00936220000P#reviewsWrap
Craftsman 220pc Mechanics Tool Set with Case
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i would also be concerned about the 12 point 1/2 inch sockets included. to me 12 point are specialty use only and should not be the rule.
i've only found 12 point bolts so far disassembling a subaru engine, i'm sure there are others but they seem very rare to me.
i've only found 12 point bolts so far disassembling a subaru engine, i'm sure there are others but they seem very rare to me.
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Craftsman tool sets are a crazy set up.
This set comes with 3 metric wrenches: 11, 12, 13 mm. They leave out arguable the most common sizes of 10 and 15 mm yet they have the uncommon 11 and 12 mm. It makes no sense to me.
Why in the world does 1/2" drive sockets ONLY come in 9-13 mm?! Those sizes are clearly in 1/4" territory.
This set comes with 3 metric wrenches: 11, 12, 13 mm. They leave out arguable the most common sizes of 10 and 15 mm yet they have the uncommon 11 and 12 mm. It makes no sense to me.
Why in the world does 1/2" drive sockets ONLY come in 9-13 mm?! Those sizes are clearly in 1/4" territory.
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My co-worker just bought a set. Similar to my Craftsman tools in my box. the sharp edges of the ratchet and wrenches hurt my hand. They are a little on the short side so I find myself hitting them to bust the bolts loose. Also, the kids at sears never seem to be able to find me a replacement socket when I ruin one.
I added a set of extra long ratchets in both 3/8 and 1/2 that has made my life a bit easier.
BTW, mine have "made in USA" on them.
I added a set of extra long ratchets in both 3/8 and 1/2 that has made my life a bit easier.
BTW, mine have "made in USA" on them.
I have a similar set #33100 that has the same ratchet drives 44808, 44807, and some of the same sockets, "Made in USA"
If you look up the individual sockets on the Sears website, listed in "items content list", they are stamped "Made in USA"
example:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-5-16-in-s...mp;blockType=G1
(This is a link to an external website, that I do not own or maintain. This post assumes that the website is correct.)
If you look up the individual sockets on the Sears website, listed in "items content list", they are stamped "Made in USA"
example:
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-5-16-in-s...mp;blockType=G1
(This is a link to an external website, that I do not own or maintain. This post assumes that the website is correct.)
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There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor, ARP uses star points for their rod/head stud kids and the clutch/flywheel assembly on Honda/Acuras use star bolts.
I would absolutely recommend getting 12 point craftsman sockets if you are going to buy craftsman.
As for knowing if they are USA ratchets, ask them to open one so you can see them. Or check the package it will say contents MADE IN USA or CHINA on it. I snagged a 1/4 ratchet and small star point socket set for 12 bucks on black Friday and it said MADE IN THE USA on the label.
I would absolutely recommend getting 12 point craftsman sockets if you are going to buy craftsman.
As for knowing if they are USA ratchets, ask them to open one so you can see them. Or check the package it will say contents MADE IN USA or CHINA on it. I snagged a 1/4 ratchet and small star point socket set for 12 bucks on black Friday and it said MADE IN THE USA on the label.
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I was wondering mostly because of this thread:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2445740
I guess I should ask at the store.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2445740
I guess I should ask at the store.
Originally Posted By: Brenden
There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor.
"Every motor"?
I find that 12 point (double-hex) heads are quite rare. Occasionally they'll be found on rod bolts and wheel spindle nuts. It's much more common to find Torx and E-Torx, with XKN/Triple-square making a come-back.
There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor.
"Every motor"?
I find that 12 point (double-hex) heads are quite rare. Occasionally they'll be found on rod bolts and wheel spindle nuts. It's much more common to find Torx and E-Torx, with XKN/Triple-square making a come-back.
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Originally Posted By: djb
Originally Posted By: Brenden
There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor.
"Every motor"?
I find that 12 point (double-hex) heads are quite rare. Occasionally they'll be found on rod bolts and wheel spindle nuts. It's much more common to find Torx and E-Torx, with XKN/Triple-square making a come-back.
I said ARP head studs, and most flywheel/pressure plate bolts are 12point and OEM. It's not a bad idea to have some star sockets around.
Originally Posted By: Brenden
There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor.
"Every motor"?
I find that 12 point (double-hex) heads are quite rare. Occasionally they'll be found on rod bolts and wheel spindle nuts. It's much more common to find Torx and E-Torx, with XKN/Triple-square making a come-back.
I said ARP head studs, and most flywheel/pressure plate bolts are 12point and OEM. It's not a bad idea to have some star sockets around.
As of now the sets are all USA made, (except the ones that include ratcheting wrenches. In those sets the ratcheting wrenches are imported). So, they ratchets should still be USA made. In a document posted on Garage Journal, Sears said only the open stock ratchets would now be Chinese. How long it will stay that way, well no one knows.
Originally Posted By: djb
Originally Posted By: Brenden
There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor.
"Every motor"?
I find that 12 point (double-hex) heads are quite rare. Occasionally they'll be found on rod bolts and wheel spindle nuts. It's much more common to find Torx and E-Torx, with XKN/Triple-square making a come-back.
Probably more than you think. I'm doing head work on a '96 4.0 jeep right now and all the head bolts are 12 point. Jeep made millions of these engines. I guess my point is that it's better to have a SET of 12 point sockets in your tool box than to have to buy each and every one when you need it.
Originally Posted By: Brenden
There are some 12pt bolts on every motor, you will use the 12 point sockets a lot on disassembling a motor.
"Every motor"?
I find that 12 point (double-hex) heads are quite rare. Occasionally they'll be found on rod bolts and wheel spindle nuts. It's much more common to find Torx and E-Torx, with XKN/Triple-square making a come-back.
Probably more than you think. I'm doing head work on a '96 4.0 jeep right now and all the head bolts are 12 point. Jeep made millions of these engines. I guess my point is that it's better to have a SET of 12 point sockets in your tool box than to have to buy each and every one when you need it.
Originally Posted By: Kruse
Probably more than you think. I'm doing head work on a '96 4.0 jeep right now and all the head bolts are 12 point. Jeep made millions of these engines. I guess my point is that it's better to have a SET of 12 point sockets in your tool box than to have to buy each and every one when you need it.
Strange. My '94 Jeep's 4.0L has regular hex.
Probably more than you think. I'm doing head work on a '96 4.0 jeep right now and all the head bolts are 12 point. Jeep made millions of these engines. I guess my point is that it's better to have a SET of 12 point sockets in your tool box than to have to buy each and every one when you need it.
Strange. My '94 Jeep's 4.0L has regular hex.
Originally Posted By: Gabe
Originally Posted By: Kruse
Probably more than you think. I'm doing head work on a '96 4.0 jeep right now and all the head bolts are 12 point. Jeep made millions of these engines. I guess my point is that it's better to have a SET of 12 point sockets in your tool box than to have to buy each and every one when you need it.
Strange. My '94 Jeep's 4.0L has regular hex.
I'm replacing a cracked head. I just looked at the Fel-Pro catalog and the 12-point head bolts that they recommend are for the 1996-2001 4.0 engines. The earlier ones must take a different head bolt set, obviously 6-point.
Originally Posted By: Kruse
Probably more than you think. I'm doing head work on a '96 4.0 jeep right now and all the head bolts are 12 point. Jeep made millions of these engines. I guess my point is that it's better to have a SET of 12 point sockets in your tool box than to have to buy each and every one when you need it.
Strange. My '94 Jeep's 4.0L has regular hex.
I'm replacing a cracked head. I just looked at the Fel-Pro catalog and the 12-point head bolts that they recommend are for the 1996-2001 4.0 engines. The earlier ones must take a different head bolt set, obviously 6-point.
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