CPU Sweet Spot- Multi Use
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Hard to beat the price to performance ratio there. Although mission creep always sets in for me and the 12900 is a logical step up, with higher turbo speeds and more physical cores. And it's still hundreds less than the current 13900's. Oh wait, that's only $200 more.....
My wife is a serious gamer and I have been building her a respectable gaming rig every few years. I then take her computer and use it. I don't have any big needs, and an obsolete gaming rig works wonderfully for me, at least for a time. It is about time for me to build another.
Sadly, the 4080 GPU's are over a grand now.
My wife is a serious gamer and I have been building her a respectable gaming rig every few years. I then take her computer and use it. I don't have any big needs, and an obsolete gaming rig works wonderfully for me, at least for a time. It is about time for me to build another.
Sadly, the 4080 GPU's are over a grand now.
I got all the power I need right here.
Go with 64GB RAM and CPU choice becomes less relevant. I'm typing this on a 10700k system with 64GB RAM and primary storage on NVMe and it's silly fast.
I still use my 2600K i7 with 32GB RAM to run Linux console and it's silly fast.
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 42
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
stepping : 7
microcode : 0x14
cpu MHz : 1854.385
cache size : 8192 KB
I still use my 2600K i7 with 32GB RAM to run Linux console and it's silly fast.
processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 42
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
stepping : 7
microcode : 0x14
cpu MHz : 1854.385
cache size : 8192 KB
That's what I currently use at home. I'm no longer a power user, but it is showing it's age.
12600k seems like a solid choice.
It depends on how much money you really want to spend.
thats ths ephilospohy I always followed but is it still true though?
My system ( all new component, less than 12 weeks old, except for the hard drives)
-i9 10900KF (slightly overclocked, I dont really know what I am doing with OC so I rely in Intel XTU Speed Optimizer 2.0 which I understand is a safe/light touch overclock.
-64 GB DDR4 RAM (it may be only DDR 4 but its among the faster of DDR4s, at 3200 MT/s, whatever that means)
-Microstar MPG Z490 motherboard
- 1T SSD (not a real new one though. I hear the latest standard of SSD is suppsoed ot be better but I dont really know if it affects my gaming)
- 4T HDD
- Another 1T SSD in reserve
- NVIDIA 4070 graphics card.
-Monitor XB 273 GX , which i understand is 4k capable.
- a 850 w Power unit.
- robust liquid cooling ( 360mm radiator)
This is a very recent build for me but I regret the choice of 10900KF, which is a great chip but not exactly the latest.
A 13900KF would have been only 280 USD more which would not have been a big deal since I rebuilt the entire sysrtem anyway (or actually someone did it for me)
Since I have a LGA 1200 MB I am stuck at 10th or 11th generation chips so no room to upgrade w/o a new motherboard.
So if I want to upgrade to a 13900KF , i also need a new MB, and likely throw away my near new RAM, for the new DDR5 RAM sticks.
Or just leave it until the i9 14900KFs come out and then go whole hog with DDR5 RAM and a 4090 graphics card.
I dont plau games that are super intensive from the factory but I like to mod them heavily so....
I welcome comments/thoughts/input...
I just replaced my old 8700k/16gbram/1080ti with a new system.
13900k/32gb 7200mhz ddr5/4090. It was a huge hit on the wallet and overkill but I do play alot of games ect. The kid needs a desktop so I am going to figure out what died on the old system (PSU I think) and reuse that for her.
13900k/32gb 7200mhz ddr5/4090. It was a huge hit on the wallet and overkill but I do play alot of games ect. The kid needs a desktop so I am going to figure out what died on the old system (PSU I think) and reuse that for her.
You have a fast CPU, what is a somewhat faster and considerably more expensive CPU going to gain for you?
I've built several systems in the last few months for work and this is what I came away with after running benchmarks as it pertains to CPU choice:
-AMD needs to up their game. All things equal, I prefer AMD because competition is a great thing. I did all the math / price vs. performance ratio, and I could not find a single AMD solution that would make sense. Perhaps if you're purely a gamer and have certain titles in mind. AMD used to have a lower platform cost (chipset / motherboard) but that simply isn't the case anymore.
-Huge performance and to a lesser extent efficiency increase going from 12-series Intel to 13-series. I would not consider a 12-series Intel CPU unless it was at a huge discount. If you're going the mid-range route, I've found a I5-13500 to be superior to a I5-12600K unless you're overclocking the 12600K. Both are around the same price. If you have a little extra money to spend, I feel the I5-13600K simply can't be beat. It's a great performer for the price.
-DDR5 does not have anywhere near the price premium it had a year ago. Performance can be a wash vs. higher clocked DDR4 kits, but future proofing makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
-Going beyond the I5-13600K in price you start to lose at the bang for the buck equation in a big way. If you need a professional workstation that can take advantage of the increase in cores, it might make sense.
-AMD needs to up their game. All things equal, I prefer AMD because competition is a great thing. I did all the math / price vs. performance ratio, and I could not find a single AMD solution that would make sense. Perhaps if you're purely a gamer and have certain titles in mind. AMD used to have a lower platform cost (chipset / motherboard) but that simply isn't the case anymore.
-Huge performance and to a lesser extent efficiency increase going from 12-series Intel to 13-series. I would not consider a 12-series Intel CPU unless it was at a huge discount. If you're going the mid-range route, I've found a I5-13500 to be superior to a I5-12600K unless you're overclocking the 12600K. Both are around the same price. If you have a little extra money to spend, I feel the I5-13600K simply can't be beat. It's a great performer for the price.
-DDR5 does not have anywhere near the price premium it had a year ago. Performance can be a wash vs. higher clocked DDR4 kits, but future proofing makes it a no brainer in my opinion.
-Going beyond the I5-13600K in price you start to lose at the bang for the buck equation in a big way. If you need a professional workstation that can take advantage of the increase in cores, it might make sense.
Wife is a gamer. Just dropped a bucket of dough on an Alienware laptop. She says its 13Gen Intel Core i9-13900hx. 36mb cache, 24 cores 32 threads, up to 5.4 ghz turbo. Graphics card nividea geFORCERTX 480, W/12gb of gddr6. Memory is 32gb ddr5 @4,800mhz.
She just recited that to me. I don,t know what it means other than $$$.
She named it "Last One"
I sure hope so.
Laughing she said it makes solitaire go really fast.
She just recited that to me. I don,t know what it means other than $$$.
She named it "Last One"
I sure hope so. Laughing she said it makes solitaire go really fast.
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I don't game at all.
DDR4 is fine with me right now.
As @wwillson said I load up on RAM as it is dirt cheap these days.
64gb is a steal and that's where I start. Fast is cool but I like to balance out cost and performance. I also go with only gold or platinum PSUs.
Quiet and cold is another must have got me.
DDR4 is fine with me right now.
As @wwillson said I load up on RAM as it is dirt cheap these days.
64gb is a steal and that's where I start. Fast is cool but I like to balance out cost and performance. I also go with only gold or platinum PSUs.
Quiet and cold is another must have got me.
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Wow....Wife is a gamer. Just dropped a bucket of dough on an Alienware laptop. She says its 13Gen Intel Core i9-13900hx. 36mb cache, 24 cores 32 threads, up to 5.4 ghz turbo. Graphics card nividea geFORCERTX 480, W/12gb of gddr6. Memory is 32gb ddr5 @4,800mhz.
She just recited that to me. I don,t know what it means other than $$$.
She named it "Last One"
Laughing she said it makes solitaire go really fast.
Have not paid attention except I know Intel is back in the lead. Part of that tick tock cycle.
For my needs, my laptop does most of my stuff (online surfing and such) and it is an old i3 5020U with 8 gigs of ram and built in graphics. It is starting to show its age, but still does most of what I need.
If I need a little more heft (minor video editing and rare gaming) I will use my desktop, a Ryzen 5 2600x with 32 gigs of DDR4 and a GTX 1060. I built this around the start of the pandemic to replace my aged Phenom II system.
For my needs, my laptop does most of my stuff (online surfing and such) and it is an old i3 5020U with 8 gigs of ram and built in graphics. It is starting to show its age, but still does most of what I need.
If I need a little more heft (minor video editing and rare gaming) I will use my desktop, a Ryzen 5 2600x with 32 gigs of DDR4 and a GTX 1060. I built this around the start of the pandemic to replace my aged Phenom II system.
More ram doesn’t necessarily mean faster computer. If you’re playing a game or doing whatever and using 12gb of ram, having 64Gb over say 16Gb or 32Gb isn’t going to improve performance.
This is very true. I have 64gb in my machine at work where I do fairly heavy multitasking across various production / CNC programming applications (Windows 11) and I've yet to see it use more than 17GB at one time. I've never even come close to maxing out the 32gb on my home PC, but it just does casual desktop duty and light gaming (MS Flight Sim 2020 is about the most demanding game I play).
With DDR5, the price increase going to 64gb isn't substantial, so it does future proof things if one keeps their system for a long time. I have encountered situations where someone wanted to upgrade RAM on an older PC, but because the RAM was a generation or two older than what was current at the time, it was cost prohibitive for the higher-density modules that everyone and their brother also wanted to upgrade older PCs. Going with 64GB nips that in the bud while higher density modules are readily available and inexpensive.
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