Corolla's tiny filter
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I always thought that the burden was on the manufacturer to prove an aftermarket part caused the specific problem that is trying to be covered by warranty?
That is why I am about to pass 5000 miles with my load of Mobil 1 and I have zero qualms. There is no way that going 7000 miles with M1 is going to damage my engine. Zero chance. Especially compared to only 'requiring' conventional oil changes once every 5000 miles or 6 months.
I feel like dropping a heavy F-bomb here, but I'll just say : screw Toyota if my engine dies because of faulty craftmanship and they don't honor the warranty because I used a superior motor oil for 2000 miles longer than their 'stipulation' demanded. I'll get a rolling start and park the thing through their showroom, and hand out papers about the 'build quality' and how Toyota stands behind their products...when I get like this my wife says 'oh you're such a big talker'
I'm doing it. I'm not being a slave to Toyota's doublethink! I'm taking my M1 to 5000 and beyond as Blackstone sees fit! I'm going to get an oversized Purolator! I'm going to take better care of that car than their manual demands AND I AM GOING TO 'VOID' MY WARRANTY!
Booyah.
Got that from : http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/warranty.htm
That is why I am about to pass 5000 miles with my load of Mobil 1 and I have zero qualms. There is no way that going 7000 miles with M1 is going to damage my engine. Zero chance. Especially compared to only 'requiring' conventional oil changes once every 5000 miles or 6 months.
I feel like dropping a heavy F-bomb here, but I'll just say : screw Toyota if my engine dies because of faulty craftmanship and they don't honor the warranty because I used a superior motor oil for 2000 miles longer than their 'stipulation' demanded. I'll get a rolling start and park the thing through their showroom, and hand out papers about the 'build quality' and how Toyota stands behind their products...when I get like this my wife says 'oh you're such a big talker'
I'm doing it. I'm not being a slave to Toyota's doublethink! I'm taking my M1 to 5000 and beyond as Blackstone sees fit! I'm going to get an oversized Purolator! I'm going to take better care of that car than their manual demands AND I AM GOING TO 'VOID' MY WARRANTY!
Booyah.
On my 03 Camry their is not enough space for a larger filter. THe diamter is fixed by the clearance between the oil pan and filter. The oil pan is formed around 1/3 or the filter. The length is fixed by the pan and splash shield. If I run anyting longer then the OEM filter it would become the lowest part of the vechile. I would also have to clearance the splash shield.
To date the Toyota filters are much larger and longer then the aftermarket filters for it!
To date the Toyota filters are much larger and longer then the aftermarket filters for it!
This is partially true. If you listen to people that have claims denied for various reasons, it appears that they don't have to prove that the aftermarket products they used caused the condition, but rather that it could have contributed to the problem. For example: If you throw a rod on an engine that has an aftermarket turbocharger installed, they don't have to prove that the turbocharger caused the problem. They just have to demonstrate that the turbocharger increased forces in the engine.
But I also believe that you shouldn't live your life to stay safe with your warranty. The likelihood that you will cause a problem with your engine by using a premium synthetic oil with extended OCIs is virtually nonexistent, especially on an engine that isn't prone to that condition.
I've got three vehicles in my household and none of them have recommended oil filters. One (my Corolla) has an oversized filter, one has a Trasko filter and one has a bypass filter. The latter two vehicles are still under warranty.
I put an sdf-15 which is the same size as a fl1a on my wife's 93 corolla. Ran fine all last winter no problems. I have cut open both the sdf-10 and sdf-15, BIG DIFFERENCE!! The sdf-15 also allows you to use a real oil filter wrench
I was wondering about the bypass but with probably 8+ times the filter area I don't think it will go into bypass mode. As an added advantage, it adds about 3/4 qt to the oil capacity so you have more oil to keep the same amount of contaminants dispersed.
Steve
Steve
I thought that too when I went to a SuperTech St-3614 filter for my '95 Corolla last year. It is much bigger than the stock filter for the Corolla, but it probably isn't as big as the Amsoil filters you mention.
This St-3614 filter had the old "clicker" bypass valve, and I found two filters used back-to-back with torn media after I removed them. I won't go into the details (I discussed this on other threads), but this tells me that even though this filter had much more filter media than the stock filter, it needed to go into bypass mode. Since I used these filters in the middle of the winter, I believe that the filter needs to go into bypass mode when the oil is cold even if you are using an oversized filter.
Thanks for the info.quote:
Originally posted by SteveU:
I put an sdf-15 which is the same size as a fl1a on my wife's 93 corolla. Ran fine all last winter no problems. I have cut open both the sdf-10 and sdf-15, BIG DIFFERENCE!! The sdf-15 also allows you to use a real oil filter wrenchI was wondering about the bypass but with probably 8+ times the filter area I don't think it will go into bypass mode. As an added advantage, it adds about 3/4 qt to the oil capacity so you have more oil to keep the same amount of contaminants dispersed.
Steve
I did however buy some Wix 51396(thanks,Gary Allen).
They are longer than the SDF10.
I do have a couple of SDF10's I recently bought that I'll still use.
I use a longer Wix on my Grand Prix also.
I'm going to go with Wix or Napa Gold's(same filters) on all my vehicles.
I haven't taken the filter apart yet because it is still on the car but will do this in another month or so. Run S2000 0w30 amsoil in both vehicles, never noticed any clicking or clatter on winter startup down to -15. The sdf-15 is one big filter element so it shouldn't have the separation problem you had. What oil were you running when this happened?
Steve
Steve
assuming that not all larger filters have more surface area of filter media than smaller ones, can anyone provide for me a link that attempts to prove that small filters are bad?
i mean, just because the filter is small does not mean its not an efficient filtering device.
i get the feeling here that i get by old tyme mechanics that believe that you can always re-use head bolts on anything and that every engine in existance should use 10w30 motor oil.
i mean, just because the filter is small does not mean its not an efficient filtering device.
i get the feeling here that i get by old tyme mechanics that believe that you can always re-use head bolts on anything and that every engine in existance should use 10w30 motor oil.
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