coolant issue...

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hello all. about a week or so ago i changed my LIM gaskets and pretty much flushed my coolant because of it. i went from autozone conventional green, to Mototech brand coolant. its a "universal" generic coolant. ever since then my engine has been running a bit warmer then it used to.. im wondering what could cause this.... could this cheap generic coolant possibly run a bit warmer? ive watered down my coolant to about 70 percent water 30 percent coolant so i dont think its a mixture issue...


i figured for $8 i'd try a new thermostat but that made no difference
 
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Did you change your thermostat with the LIM change? Also 70% water isn't really all that smart in Nebraska.

edit: saw your edit.. Can you quantify the temp increase?
 
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Originally Posted By: The_Eric
70% water isn't really all that smart in Nebraska.

edit: saw your edit.. Can you quantify the temp increase?


lol, i know. especially with winter coming. it runs about 2 lines on my guage warmer, which i think is maybe 5 degrees.. and when i get on the highway it runs even warmer. it never used to do any of this. it would just get up to temp, and stay RIGHT there.
 
Originally Posted By: Jakegday
well, nothings impossible... i may have bumped it a little. could a good bump throw off its readings?


Not really, but damaging the wires could. Are you sure you've got all the air bled out of it? There is an air bleeder on the thermostat housing (I'm sure you know that). I'll do mine several times while filling and several times while running and under pressure.

Coolant level okay?

Rad cap kosher?

Could just be that you had some corrosion on your sending unit connector and now it's reading correctly (or more so). Double check temp with a thermometer or infrared temp gun.
 
Bleeding is the #1 concern.
Air pockets generally work themselves out, but sometimes are stubborn.
A piece of crud may be impinging the thermostat, also.
A coolant ensor may be cleaned up a bit now, and reading where it actually SHOULD be.
 
well [censored]! i know i have gotten all of the air out, the radiator cap looks great. i dont think i knocked any crud off that makes it read more accurate, because according to lots of other grand prix owners on the internet, the way my car was before is the way its supposed to be, and where my needle sits now, is indeed, warmer then usual.
its warm to the point of making the radiator fans run constantly, when normally the only time they run is when i sit in a drive thru line for a while
so theres no chance a cheap coolant would make it a tad warmer?
 
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Originally Posted By: Jakegday
well [censored]! i know i have gotten all of the air out, the radiator cap looks great. i dont think i knocked any crud off that makes it read more accurate, because according to lots of other grand prix owners on the internet, the way my car was before is the way its supposed to be, and where my needle sits now, is indeed, warmer then usual.
its warm to the point of making the radiator fans run constantly, when normally the only time they run is when i sit in a drive thru line for a while
so theres no chance a cheap coolant would make it a tad warmer?


Verify the gauge's readings with an infrared thermometer on the Tstat housing and the upper radiator hose. It is possible that some gasket material, dirt, sealant, etc got in the cooling passages and is causing a flow impedance, as mechtech2 suggested. I cannot recall if the GP has 2 separate temperature sensors for the ECM and temperature gauge. If they use the same sensor, and that sensor were faulty, then the fans would indeed run more as a result of the perceived temperature increase.

If you think that the issue is the coolant itself then I would flush it out and replace it with something that you trust. At least then you would have the opportunity to flush the system again, remove any additional dislodged crud, and replace the coolant with the proper mix (winter is coming soon). If it doesn't help then look elsewhere.
 
I am not normally a parts changer [ just throw parts at it and see what fixes it].
But a new thermostat is cheap and also good diagnosis. It fixes it or eliminates it as a problem. And a new therm is a good maintenance item, so no loss changing it.
You can use coffee filters to filter your used coolant for reuse.
Cheap, and work well for particulate matter.
 
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