Originally Posted By: bigmike
andrewg, I've done some minor digging and only a handful of states have an employee gun-at-work (or parking lot) law. Washington state, obviously isn't one of them, however.
Not that it hasn't been argued that local municipalities cannot enact harsher gun laws than the state, but rather it has been ruled that places of employment have rights to govern their own property as they see fit - in layman terms, if you will.
I've been an offender of drawing your thread off-topic and I apologize.
I sometimes wonder what could have happened if AA flight 11 and UA flight 175 had upright citizens with guns onboard. Even a pilot with one... but I digress. There's no convincing some people.
My advice is to forgo taking your weapon to work. If you feel threatened on their property, contact your HR or union rep (whoever necessary) and make it an issue in writing (fill out proper paperwork if needed). Explain to them with the words "this is a liability issue." Make some suggestions as well. For instance, ask questions about their security, cameras, workplace safety response, statistics, etc. Once you have made it known, now they have to accept responsibility of their eliminating your right to carry on their property.
I feel for you in this matter. I work for the state of Florida and I'm not allowed to carry nor able to store my weapon in my vehicle due to it being on public grounds. However, we have excellent security and they respond in around 20 seconds to my office.
Thanks bigmike. I've pretty much given up on the idea of carrying a weapon in my vehicle to work. The company states a zero tolerance policy for firearms on any and all company property and those violating this rule will be subject to termination. And trust me, the place I work is very sensitive about anything to do with workplace violence or threats. One time I was upset about another employee accusing me of not doing my job (I always work hard, obey rules, and don't waste company time). I was upset about this as they were a lead and perhaps had some influence. I had voiced my concern about the lies and said that if I here any more garbage like that, " I was going to go ballistic" and go to HR. Well, next thing I know the term 'ballistic' was taken out of context and used against me as the term pertains to firearms. I was suspended and had to go to anger classes and a shrink before they would allow me back into work as they considered me a possible threat (like some nutcase) It was horrible. So yes, they are VERY anti-gun on the property....or even the mention of one.
But I have considered parking on the street next to my work. As I've stated before vandals would possibly wreck my vehicle. On the company property it is safe however. We have several guards at the fenced entrance.
Thanks for the reply and info.
andrewg, I've done some minor digging and only a handful of states have an employee gun-at-work (or parking lot) law. Washington state, obviously isn't one of them, however.
Not that it hasn't been argued that local municipalities cannot enact harsher gun laws than the state, but rather it has been ruled that places of employment have rights to govern their own property as they see fit - in layman terms, if you will.
I've been an offender of drawing your thread off-topic and I apologize.
I sometimes wonder what could have happened if AA flight 11 and UA flight 175 had upright citizens with guns onboard. Even a pilot with one... but I digress. There's no convincing some people.
My advice is to forgo taking your weapon to work. If you feel threatened on their property, contact your HR or union rep (whoever necessary) and make it an issue in writing (fill out proper paperwork if needed). Explain to them with the words "this is a liability issue." Make some suggestions as well. For instance, ask questions about their security, cameras, workplace safety response, statistics, etc. Once you have made it known, now they have to accept responsibility of their eliminating your right to carry on their property.
I feel for you in this matter. I work for the state of Florida and I'm not allowed to carry nor able to store my weapon in my vehicle due to it being on public grounds. However, we have excellent security and they respond in around 20 seconds to my office.
Thanks bigmike. I've pretty much given up on the idea of carrying a weapon in my vehicle to work. The company states a zero tolerance policy for firearms on any and all company property and those violating this rule will be subject to termination. And trust me, the place I work is very sensitive about anything to do with workplace violence or threats. One time I was upset about another employee accusing me of not doing my job (I always work hard, obey rules, and don't waste company time). I was upset about this as they were a lead and perhaps had some influence. I had voiced my concern about the lies and said that if I here any more garbage like that, " I was going to go ballistic" and go to HR. Well, next thing I know the term 'ballistic' was taken out of context and used against me as the term pertains to firearms. I was suspended and had to go to anger classes and a shrink before they would allow me back into work as they considered me a possible threat (like some nutcase) It was horrible. So yes, they are VERY anti-gun on the property....or even the mention of one.
But I have considered parking on the street next to my work. As I've stated before vandals would possibly wreck my vehicle. On the company property it is safe however. We have several guards at the fenced entrance.
Thanks for the reply and info.
