gathermewool
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Stop means stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
Stop means stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
Coming to a complete stop at a stop sign
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With the current state of most intersections here in the Twin Cities at the moment, this is a tough question. Most of the corners are piled so high with snow that rolling a stop sign can be suicide. Then again, some of the berms at said intersections are so thick that stopping on them can mean getting stuck, badly. Visibility is at a premium right now, and every intersection has to be treated differently.
Originally Posted by gathermewool
Originally Posted by PimTac
Stop means stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
So it all depends on the situation?
There is a empty handicapped spot to park, I'll only be a minute.
The sign says two or more in the HOV lane but I'm late for work so its okay.
The sign says 15 minute parking but I only need 20 minutes so it should be fine.
School zone is 20mph, surely they won't stop me from doing 25.
If I get right up on this guys butt maybe he will go faster.
Originally Posted by PimTac
Stop means stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
So it all depends on the situation?
There is a empty handicapped spot to park, I'll only be a minute.
The sign says two or more in the HOV lane but I'm late for work so its okay.
The sign says 15 minute parking but I only need 20 minutes so it should be fine.
School zone is 20mph, surely they won't stop me from doing 25.
If I get right up on this guys butt maybe he will go faster.
Originally Posted by Imp4
Like any good parent, I tell my kids that they had better stop or else and then I roll on through when I'm by myself...
Well, at least you're honest about your heinous criminality!
Like any good parent, I tell my kids that they had better stop or else and then I roll on through when I'm by myself...
Well, at least you're honest about your heinous criminality!
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Ha, now that I think of it I did get pulled over a little over 2 years ago for turning right on a red light and not stopping. There was no cars coming and I slipped through.
No ticket though.
No ticket though.
Originally Posted by SatinSilver
Originally Posted by Char Baby
Originally Posted by Chris142
I always stop. With my luck there will be a fuzz hiding in the bushes ready to give me a ticket. And since I have a cdl I'm not elagable for traffic school and the fine will be doubled.
I haven't heard "fuzz" in years. I had to laugh.
Thanks for that.
Reminds me back when radar detectors were called Fuzzbusters.
Again, another term I haven't heard in some time!
I had an old Cobra Fuzz Buster from Western Auto. It was the about the size of a portable cassette deck
and about as heavy. You were supposed to put in on your sun visor(yeah right!) or dash. The signal went off every time I drove by a grocery store with automatic doors.
Originally Posted by Char Baby
Originally Posted by Chris142
I always stop. With my luck there will be a fuzz hiding in the bushes ready to give me a ticket. And since I have a cdl I'm not elagable for traffic school and the fine will be doubled.
I haven't heard "fuzz" in years. I had to laugh.
Thanks for that.
Reminds me back when radar detectors were called Fuzzbusters.
Again, another term I haven't heard in some time!
I had an old Cobra Fuzz Buster from Western Auto. It was the about the size of a portable cassette deck
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The older I get, the more cautious I become. I'd prefer not to explain anything to the county mountie.
I stop!
Why:
-My house is by a stop. Also the pickup/drop-off point for little kids...
-I've seen 2 vehicle accidents and 1 bicyclist flying
But!
When It's my turn to start, I DON'T SLEEP!
P.S. massive shock! 35mph traffic, me the first position at traffic light. Green Light, start car normally (Toyota Yaris with 1.5L engine), go to 35 posted speed, look in my mirror and 4 lanes of traffic are 1/4 miles behind me. WT***????!!?!?!?
Is this DRIVING in Traffic, or SLEEPING in Traffic?
Why:
-My house is by a stop. Also the pickup/drop-off point for little kids...
-I've seen 2 vehicle accidents and 1 bicyclist flying
But!
When It's my turn to start, I DON'T SLEEP!
P.S. massive shock! 35mph traffic, me the first position at traffic light. Green Light, start car normally (Toyota Yaris with 1.5L engine), go to 35 posted speed, look in my mirror and 4 lanes of traffic are 1/4 miles behind me. WT***????!!?!?!?
Is this DRIVING in Traffic, or SLEEPING in Traffic?
gathermewool
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Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by gathermewool
Originally Posted by PimTac
Stop means stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
So it all depends on the situation?
There is a empty handicapped spot to park, I'll only be a minute.
The sign says two or more in the HOV lane but I'm late for work so its okay.
The sign says 15 minute parking but I only need 20 minutes so it should be fine.
School zone is 20mph, surely they won't stop me from doing 25.
If I get right up on this guys butt maybe he will go faster.
Don't confuse me with your average dumb dumb, who literally blows through stop signs without any regard for others. In each of your examples, breaking the listed rule could potentially affect others who meet the listed criteria. I leave my house with plenty of time to get where I need to be and typically drive at the speed limit or five over. I don't roll through stop signs to save time; I roll through them because it's safe to do so and it saves gas. Depending on how many miles I have on the tank, I'll usually see the the MPG indicator for trip A increment up 0.1 by the time I'm through the neighborhood and reach home.
As I thought I made clear, the vast majority of the time I drive 20 MPH or less in my neighborhood for safety reasons (occasionally coasting up higher to ~25 MPH on a downhill). I see others blast through at 30+.
I see others in my neighborhood who speed through it, slam on the brakes at the stop-sign, come almost to a stop, then continue to roll through it. What I don't see, is their head looking left and right before, during or after the stop-sign. There's a BIG difference between these unsafe practices and what I do. In fact, I notice a big difference in how I drive and how MANY of the people on the road do. That wasn't always the case, and I was a pretty aggressive driver when I was younger, but that wild streak has slowly waned. And, while these other people [censored] me off, I only honk my horn or flash my high-beams when it's appropriate. If someone is coming into my lane because they didn't check their mirrors, I back off (safer); whereas, I would likely honk my horn to get them to stop (not so safe)
Conclusion: rules are rules, but practical safety while skirting them isn't always black and white.
Originally Posted by gathermewool
Originally Posted by PimTac
Stop means stop. No ifs, ands or buts.
So it all depends on the situation?
There is a empty handicapped spot to park, I'll only be a minute.
The sign says two or more in the HOV lane but I'm late for work so its okay.
The sign says 15 minute parking but I only need 20 minutes so it should be fine.
School zone is 20mph, surely they won't stop me from doing 25.
If I get right up on this guys butt maybe he will go faster.
Don't confuse me with your average dumb dumb, who literally blows through stop signs without any regard for others. In each of your examples, breaking the listed rule could potentially affect others who meet the listed criteria. I leave my house with plenty of time to get where I need to be and typically drive at the speed limit or five over. I don't roll through stop signs to save time; I roll through them because it's safe to do so and it saves gas. Depending on how many miles I have on the tank, I'll usually see the the MPG indicator for trip A increment up 0.1 by the time I'm through the neighborhood and reach home.
As I thought I made clear, the vast majority of the time I drive 20 MPH or less in my neighborhood for safety reasons (occasionally coasting up higher to ~25 MPH on a downhill). I see others blast through at 30+.
I see others in my neighborhood who speed through it, slam on the brakes at the stop-sign, come almost to a stop, then continue to roll through it. What I don't see, is their head looking left and right before, during or after the stop-sign. There's a BIG difference between these unsafe practices and what I do. In fact, I notice a big difference in how I drive and how MANY of the people on the road do. That wasn't always the case, and I was a pretty aggressive driver when I was younger, but that wild streak has slowly waned. And, while these other people [censored] me off, I only honk my horn or flash my high-beams when it's appropriate. If someone is coming into my lane because they didn't check their mirrors, I back off (safer); whereas, I would likely honk my horn to get them to stop (not so safe)
Conclusion: rules are rules, but practical safety while skirting them isn't always black and white.
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