Coil Over Shocks

[BMWTurboDzl]

The typical bar between the strut towers and across the trunk aren't reducing understeer like they are advertised. I'm sure there is some measureable reduction in body flex (tiny) but whether some dude driving his car on a highway on ramp will ever be able to actually benefit/feel it is a highly suspect to me.

That's a pretty wild bar setup there.

Who advertises them as reducing understeer? That's a new one to me.

In any case that's a photo of the track ready M3/M4.

Here's the prev-gen M3/M4 with the carbon fiber brace.

 

[TiGeo]

Who advertises them as reducing understeer? That's a new one to me.

In any case that's a photo of the track ready M3/M4.

Here's the prev-gen M3/M4 with the carbon fiber brace.

A lot of the aftermarket stuff I see for the VWs touts reducing understeer which is comedy to me.

 

[TiGeo]

Maybe a better way to state my position on aftermarket (not OE) chassis stiffening upgrades is this. For my VW a set of quality f/r bars by Eurosport will set me back about $500 and add ~15 lbs to my car. These will have a zero impact on my lap times at VIR. I'd be better of spending the $500 towards a faster set of 200tw tires that will absolutely improve my lap times or just spend it on more seat time which again will absolutely improve my lap times.

 

[Revving2Redline]

Tell that to BMW.

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I had a factory one on my Accord Sport but it wasn't too impressive. So I went with a Ultra Racing Strut Bar. Much bigger and merged to McPherson suspension keeps it more nimble. In Malaysia/ Indonesia they are installed for steering and collision protection. They only three I like are front upper, rear sway(softer setting) and either upper rear or in the middle which the 2017 Sport has that is in two places making removing midpipe/resonator another step to get to.

 

[Revving2Redline]

I definitely need to go through with a really soft paintbrush and lather the underside and engine bay with some soap and spray shine and kind of just clean it up.

 

[edyvw]

The typical bar between the strut towers and across the trunk aren't reducing understeer like they are advertised. I'm sure there is some measureable reduction in body flex (tiny) but whether some dude driving his car on a highway on ramp will ever be able to actually benefit/feel it is a highly suspect to me.

That's a pretty wild bar setup there.

Here is news: BMW has that set up underneath too. RWD usually has two bars connecting two sides, xDrive has steel plate connecting two sides and protecting some vital parts too. On my 328 it is beefier than on most real off road vehicles.

 

[UG_Passat]

I've heard of folks reporting chassis bracing reducing creaking on some cars.

Shine setup was supposed to work well. Not to low to upset roll center. Lower isn't always better for sure.

The Shine setup raised the front a nudge and lowered the rear slightly. It's still a torsion beam rear suspension, so go into a corner hard enough, and it will lift a rear wheel.

Not a shine suspension below, as the additional rear sway bar is visible as non-Shine designs are clamped to the torsion beam and mounted below the torsion beam