CNET top 5 techs you can live without

[blackman777]

Link: http://youtu.be/5Su56abkiWY?t=11m49s

5. Lane Departure warning : "IIHS finds it causes more accidents"

4. Self Parking : "You can't handle a car at 2 miles/hour? Why are you driving?"

3. Sports & Stocks : "Waste"

2. Navigation : "Not as good as what's on your phone. For free."

1. Media hard drive : "You don't need yet another MP3 collection to waste time managing. Again: Your phone is better."

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[demarpaint]

I'll add to the list. My two choices that I can live very happily without.

1. DI.
2. Start Stop Technology in a non hybrid car.

 

[95busa]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'll add to the list. My two choices that I can live very happily without.

1. DI.
2. Start Stop Technology in a non hybrid car.

FACT

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'll add to the list. My two choices that I can live very happily without.

1. DI.
2. Start Stop Technology in a non hybrid car.

hahaha,

indeed.

While the cnet list is indeed stuff I dont care to be sold by an automaker, your two, when implemented well in a generation or two, IMO will be great advancements in efficiency, both operating and when idle.

 

[blackman777]

DI improves MPGs and saves the consumer money. It's letting gasoline cars get MPG ratings == to diesels. Plus it's already been proven to work (in TDIs the last 20 years). I like DI.

Stop/start tech is a waste for us highway drivers, but saves 1/4 to 1/2 gallon per hour if you drive in the city (or stop-and-go rush hour).

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

While the cnet list is indeed stuff I dont care to be sold by an automaker, your two, when implemented well in a generation or two, IMO will be great advancements in efficiency, both operating and when idle.

In a generation or two, for sure, now, no thanks! For me Start Stop, never. LOL Hopefully when it is forced upon me there still will be a way to disable it.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Some of the highest mileage vehicles on the road right now are still port injected.


Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I'll add to the list. My two choices that I can live very happily without.

5. DI.
6. Start Stop Technology in a non hybrid car.

7. "Power Everything"
8. Low Profile tires


And again, I come back to this as being my ideal car:

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Originally Posted By: blackman777
Link: http://youtu.be/5Su56abkiWY?t=11m49s

5. Lane Departure warning : "IIHS finds it causes more accidents"

4. Self Parking : "You can't handle a car at 2 miles/hour? Why are you driving?"

3. Sports & Stocks : "Waste"

2. Navigation : "Not as good as what's on your phone. For free."

1. Media hard drive : "You don't need yet another MP3 collection to waste time managing. Again: Your phone is better."

CNET


While I agree about in car navigation I can't deny that the location and screen size are probably safer than a small mounted phone based system.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

Originally Posted By: blackman777
DI improves MPGs and saves the consumer money. It's letting gasoline cars get MPG ratings == to diesels. Plus it's already been proven to work (in TDIs the last 20 years). I like DI.

Stop/start tech is a waste for us highway drivers, but saves 1/4 to 1/2 gallon per hour if you drive in the city (or stop-and-go rush hour).


DI maintenance costs are higher unless the system has an additional port to wash the valves with fuel. If I spend $400 every 3 yrs to get the valves cleaned how many additional MPGS will I need to offset that?

 

[IndyIan]

I's surprised the start/stop isn't on more cars here. It must be worth 5-20% fuel savings in a city.
Screens and navigation isn't something I need. Usually 3 glances at a map at the stop lights gets me to somewhere new.

Has any automaker sucked it up and put a phone mount on the dash with aux in port nearby? Just admit that a smart phone is the better option than their "infotainment" system?

 

[SteveSRT8]

It should be obvious by now that some mfgrs have figured out DI in gas engines. Just as some have not. So no blanket statements as not all DI engines require valve cleanings.

Note that Toyota specifically stated that the additional injector mounted in the intake manifold in its engines that are DI was NOT to wash the intake valves. It is to deal with cylinder filling issues at certain part throttle conditions.

I say thank goodness for the "early adopters" who are out there testing for all of us!

 

[blackman777]

re: Valve cleanings: That's why Toyota, GM, etc invented "Top Tier" gas; to prevent those deposits forming.
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
While I agree about in car navigation I can't deny that the location and screen size are probably safer than a small mounted phone based system.

That's what I thought too, until 2 days ago when I saw a 20-something woman staring at her nav screen. I watched several minutes & she never looked at the road..... I could have stopped & she'd be buying me a new bumper/paintjob. Anything that distracts is bad, whether it's a phonescreen or navscreen.

Ironically studies have shown handsfree talking is also just as dangerous as talking directly to the phone. There's no difference in accident-rate or driver response time.

 

[spasm3]

I would get rid of the radios withe screen menu's. I like knobs, same goes for climate controls. For example, Our new elantra, you have to take your eyes off the road to adjust the heat, radio etc. On my 93 ciera, i can move the heat vent def controls with out even looking away from the road. Putting the controls on the steering wheel is no better.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
I say thank goodness for the "early adopters" who are out there testing for all of us!



Yep! I'll go out on a limb and suggest that most of what we take for granted was once lousy and failure prone.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Has any automaker sucked it up and put a phone mount on the dash with aux in port nearby? Just admit that a smart phone is the better option than their "infotainment" system?


Chevy's gone a step further, to a place where I think all automakers will be in a few years: MyLink.

http://www.chevrolet.com/mylink-vehicle-technology.html

You can pair your phone with the infotainment system in the car and access things like navigation on your phone via the car's infotainment screen.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: blackman777
2. Navigation : "Not as good as what's on your phone. For free."

Maps still work great and are much cheaper. City hall gives them away for free here.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8

I say thank goodness for the "early adopters" who are out there testing for all of us!



Yes, thank goodness for them. Give it a generation or two across the board and maybe they'll all have it right.

 

[grampi]

I would trade all the tech garbage for a practically sized vehicle that either gets 100 MPG, or runs on some type of renewable energy that is affordable.

 

[dparm]

Lately CNET has been turning out a lot of [censored] articles like that one. Their car reviews are pretty pathetic and I think they're struggling to stay relevant. I don't really consider them a go-to source for vehicle news.

Anyway, I think they're overgeneralizing with the navigation thing. Yes, smartphones will have more current maps with extra features, but half of that problem stems from the fact that owners never bother updating the maps in their car. Also, the integration with the rest of the vehicle is what makes built-in nav so great: it can display things in a HUD, instrument cluster, read them aloud, tell you where to stop for gas, etc. It also doesn't require a data connection and won't drain the phone's battery.

 

[gofast182]

Originally Posted By: dparm
Lately CNET has been turning out a lot of [censored] articles like that one. Their car reviews are pretty pathetic and I think they're struggling to stay relevant. I don't really consider them a go-to source for vehicle news.

Anyway, I think they're overgeneralizing with the navigation thing. Yes, smartphones will have more current maps with extra features, but half of that problem stems from the fact that owners never bother updating the maps in their car. Also, the integration with the rest of the vehicle is what makes built-in nav so great: it can display things in a HUD, instrument cluster, read them aloud, tell you where to stop for gas, etc. It also doesn't require a data connection and won't drain the phone's battery.

Absolutely. We'll be doing the maps in the MDX next year because while they are somewhat outdated the location and SIZE of the screen, lack of cables (to keep a phone battery from draining instantly), the fact that it will work in the middle of nowhere, and the audio volume ducking for nav. instructions are all better than any phone. I think many don't realize it can be done or are intimidated by it. My wife, with zero help from me, downloaded and updated the Gracenote CD Database in the MDX already, no biggie.