Chrysler PT Cruiser for daily driver?

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It has been a whirlwind year with my FX4 having gone from North to South and East to West in these grand United States, but in the process I have racked up almost 42K miles (at least 45% of these commuting to work and running around town).

I am considering picking up a PT Cruiser as a daily driver--no particular reason other than I like them and they are in the 4-6K range in the Houston area for a 3 year old with less than 75K miles on them (tons of these around).

Does anyone have any experience to share about them? I have rented these a few times for work and liked them. But I am wondering if there are any inherent problems (engine, transmission, etc.) before I dive into one of them.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on the matter.
 
The automatic transmission models are known for wonky shifting. Aside from that, they're decent on gas, and okay for space.
 
I expect at that price they are not turbos. If you buy a turbo better off to get the 5 speed manual as the auto has 4th gear problems with boost .Solid car cheap to maintain all round good car for the money, at 75000 miles check the lower control arms.


Turbodog
 
Had one as a rental once. Couldn't stand it. Gutless, wonky shifting, no road feel, terrible brakes, abysmal fuel economy for such a small, underpowered car. Interior was even worse than the drivetrain.

If you like them I say go for it. But I wouldn't spend a nickel on one.
 
Chrysler 2.4L engine is rock solid.
I have known people who've had these and have not had any real trouble with them at all. Same with the Stratus and Cirrus.
 
Originally Posted By: mgm13
I expect at that price they are not turbos. If you buy a turbo better off to get the 5 speed manual as the auto has 4th gear problems with boost .Solid car cheap to maintain all round good car for the money, at 75000 miles check the lower control arms.Turbodog

It would be a non-turbo (looking for dependability and less potential issues) UNLESS it was a REALLY good deal, but I do not see these cars as "sporty" more along the pseudo-utility line and so turbo is not really needed.

Thanks for the insight!
 
Originally Posted By: SrDriver
Fuel economy is not all that great with them.

Mid-high 20s or? I averaged 27-30 in the ones that I rented, but that MPG would not be representative of the driving I would see on my commute.
 
Originally Posted By: scurvy
Had one as a rental once. Couldn't stand it. Gutless, wonky shifting, no road feel, terrible brakes, abysmal fuel economy for such a small, underpowered car. Interior was even worse than the drivetrain.

If you like them I say go for it. But I wouldn't spend a nickel on one.


I think I had the same rental car scury had...
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I rented one and liked it, but like a few have already said the mileage was disappointing. It had tons of room and was very comfortable.

A friend of mine had one for a few years; he had to get the transmission replaced while it was still under warranty. He later got into an accident after he dozed off at the wheel and hit another car head-on (not very fast fortunately!). Insurance paid to fix it but he had a bunch of niggling little problems afterward and soon traded it in.
 
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
It has been a whirlwind year with my FX4 having gone from North to South and East to West in these grand United States, but in the process I have racked up almost 42K miles (at least 45% of these commuting to work and running around town).

I am considering picking up a PT Cruiser as a daily driver--no particular reason other than I like them and they are in the 4-6K range in the Houston area for a 3 year old with less than 75K miles on them (tons of these around).

Does anyone have any experience to share about them? I have rented these a few times for work and liked them. But I am wondering if there are any inherent problems (engine, transmission, etc.) before I dive into one of them.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on the matter.


My wife LOVES her 2005 PT, and I have to admit that its one of the most creatively laid out and functional vehicles I've ever owned, from an INTERIOR point of view. I can move bigger things in the PT than I can in the Cherokees- you can literally get a dishwasher in the back of the PT by removing the rear seats. Its also very, very comfortable.

I will also say that while I had my doubts about it being assembled in Mexico, it is actually extremely well put-together. The fit and finish are really top notch. We bought this one with 30k miles on it and are now over 60k and I've literally done nothing but change the oil. I do need to change plugs and coolant soon, and that's going to be a minor challenge. The upper intake plenum has to come off for the plugs, and by the looks of things just prying off the lower radiator hose would be easier than trying to actually get at and open the radiator drain petcock...

Waiting for the other shoe to drop? Here it is: the engine is just flat shoehorned into that retro-styled front end. Its significantly harder to work on than other vehicles I've owned, although I doubt that its really harder than some Hondas that are really packed in tight for better interior ergonomics. Don't get me wrong- ROUTINE stuff like oil/filter changes couldn't be easier. Its the less-routine stuff like belts and tensioners, plugs as mentioned above, and (God help me when the time comes...) timing belts that are tough.

Other quirks- the automatic transmission (41TE) is plenty reliable in the later years (I'd say 2002 and up), but nothing can help the bad spacing of ratios. A stick PT, even normally aspirated, is a fun and frisky-enough car even if it won't win many races. A turbo PT stick is a BEAST. An automatic normally-aspirated PT seems to fall on its face when it hits 3rd gear. But its fine for folks like my wife who just don't care about that. My final gripe about it is that the non-turbo versions get massively unequal-length half-shafts, whereas the turbo and diesel models got an idler bearing and much more nearly equal length halfshafts. Most people wouldn't notice or care, but every time I feel that little vibration under hard acceleration, I mutter at them cutting that corner.

People always ding them for poor economy, and to a degree its true. A little car like that, you'd think, should get low 30s. But they're heavier than they look and not super aerodynamic. We get a solid and reliable 27 highway, and about 20 around town. Not bad for as little as we paid for the car up front and how very comfortable it is.
 
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mpgs are more like a V6
the timing belt is a biggg pain(interference engine)
some had cooling fan issues

other than that they seem ok my aunt has one and its been pretty trouble free
 
My girlfriend has an 06. It needed a steering rack and PS pump replaced under warranty (dealer warranty) at about 35k miles. It also had an evap emissions code and needed some hoses replaced around the same time. Other than that, no problems. It now has about 43k miles. Interior materials feel a little hard and cheap IMO. Gas mileage is pretty poor.
 
I have one. I ordered it a month after they started taking orders and got it in September of '01. It has 85k miles on it. It's been a reasonably good car. 440Magnum's reply covered pretty much everything, a well thought out reply.

In the 10 years I've had mine the only major repair was a head gasket, but I don't think that they are particularly problematic. The engine compartment is tight, I had a shop do that job. Suspension bushings were mentioned, and they are problematic, I think I've had mine done twice. If I were looking at a used one at a dealer, I'd check the bushings and have the deal contingent on replacing them if necessary. There have been other repairs, but nothing I would consider out of the norm.

But, I still have the PT after 10 years, so I must like it. I like the retro style. The interior is well designed. The seats fold and flip, and there's a 3-position rear shelf, so you can configure it for different loads. I remember when I bought it, a rather tall fellow, who was looking at them, got in the rear seat and pronounced the legroom as acceptable. They're very comfortable to get into and get out of. The seating is very upright, I like it. Oil changes are easy, you need ramps but the filter is super accessible, right next to the drain plug.

Hope that helps with your decision.
 
As mentioned maintenance is a chore. Changing the spark plugs requires the removal of the intake manifold upper part.

The timing belt must be replaced @ 90K and no more. I've seen several that broke before 95K.

The valves wont hit the pistons but the valves are so close together that the intake valves can hit the exhaust valves if the belt breaks. This is also very common.

Replacing the timing belt is an all day job. Plan on it costing $1000 if you pay to have it done.
 
Originally Posted By: morris
isnt the pt mounted on the neon frame?

Yes; from all that I have seen and read it is.
 
Originally Posted By: Rick in PA
I have one. I ordered it a month after they started taking orders and got it in September of '01. It has 85k miles on it. It's been a reasonably good car. 440Magnum's reply covered pretty much everything, a well thought out reply.

In the 10 years I've had mine the only major repair was a head gasket, but I don't think that they are particularly problematic. The engine compartment is tight, I had a shop do that job. Suspension bushings were mentioned, and they are problematic, I think I've had mine done twice. If I were looking at a used one at a dealer, I'd check the bushings and have the deal contingent on replacing them if necessary. There have been other repairs, but nothing I would consider out of the norm.

But, I still have the PT after 10 years, so I must like it. I like the retro style. The interior is well designed. The seats fold and flip, and there's a 3-position rear shelf, so you can configure it for different loads. I remember when I bought it, a rather tall fellow, who was looking at them, got in the rear seat and pronounced the legroom as acceptable. They're very comfortable to get into and get out of. The seating is very upright, I like it. Oil changes are easy, you need ramps but the filter is super accessible, right next to the drain plug.

Hope that helps with your decision.

Many thanks Rick--it definitely helps!
 
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: 2010_FX4
It has been a whirlwind year with my FX4 having gone from North to South and East to West in these grand United States, but in the process I have racked up almost 42K miles (at least 45% of these commuting to work and running around town).

I am considering picking up a PT Cruiser as a daily driver--no particular reason other than I like them and they are in the 4-6K range in the Houston area for a 3 year old with less than 75K miles on them (tons of these around).

Does anyone have any experience to share about them? I have rented these a few times for work and liked them. But I am wondering if there are any inherent problems (engine, transmission, etc.) before I dive into one of them.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on the matter.


My wife LOVES her 2005 PT, and I have to admit that its one of the most creatively laid out and functional vehicles I've ever owned, from an INTERIOR point of view. I can move bigger things in the PT than I can in the Cherokees- you can literally get a dishwasher in the back of the PT by removing the rear seats. Its also very, very comfortable.

I will also say that while I had my doubts about it being assembled in Mexico, it is actually extremely well put-together. The fit and finish are really top notch. We bought this one with 30k miles on it and are now over 60k and I've literally done nothing but change the oil. I do need to change plugs and coolant soon, and that's going to be a minor challenge. The upper intake plenum has to come off for the plugs, and by the looks of things just prying off the lower radiator hose would be easier than trying to actually get at and open the radiator drain petcock...

Waiting for the other shoe to drop? Here it is: the engine is just flat shoehorned into that retro-styled front end. Its significantly harder to work on than other vehicles I've owned, although I doubt that its really harder than some Hondas that are really packed in tight for better interior ergonomics. Don't get me wrong- ROUTINE stuff like oil/filter changes couldn't be easier. Its the less-routine stuff like belts and tensioners, plugs as mentioned above, and (God help me when the time comes...) timing belts that are tough.

Other quirks- the automatic transmission (41TE) is plenty reliable in the later years (I'd say 2002 and up), but nothing can help the bad spacing of ratios. A stick PT, even normally aspirated, is a fun and frisky-enough car even if it won't win many races. A turbo PT stick is a BEAST. An automatic normally-aspirated PT seems to fall on its face when it hits 3rd gear. But its fine for folks like my wife who just don't care about that. My final gripe about it is that the non-turbo versions get massively unequal-length half-shafts, whereas the turbo and diesel models got an idler bearing and much more nearly equal length halfshafts. Most people wouldn't notice or care, but every time I feel that little vibration under hard acceleration, I mutter at them cutting that corner.

People always ding them for poor economy, and to a degree its true. A little car like that, you'd think, should get low 30s. But they're heavier than they look and not super aerodynamic. We get a solid and reliable 27 highway, and about 20 around town. Not bad for as little as we paid for the car up front and how very comfortable it is.

440 - thanks indeed for the very detailed notes on the Cruiser. This helps me immensely; I am all but sold on it as a daily driver.
 
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