Chinese EV anyone?

[hemioiler]

Then I hate to break it to you that none of the Chinese made junk would even take off if it weren’t for the deliberate manipulation of the trade policies in the western countries.

There was a conscious effort to prop up the Chinese economy and slowly start to destroy the American production base. But most people think it happened originally and call it capitalism.

Sounds like you purchase stocks in aluminum.

 

[KrisZ]

Sounds like you purchase stocks in aluminum.

Brilliant argumentation sir.

 

[rijndael]

Then I hate to break it to you that none of the Chinese made junk would even take off if it weren’t for the deliberate manipulation of the trade policies in the western countries.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-driving-xiaomi-su7-electric-vehicles-ev-2024-10

• Ford CEO Jim Farley says he's been driving the Chinese tech giant Xiaomi's EV for the past six months.
• Farley described Xiaomi as an "industry juggernaut."
• Farley previously told a board member that China's auto industry was an "existential threat."

 

[KrisZ]

https://www.businessinsider.com/ford-ceo-driving-xiaomi-su7-electric-vehicles-ev-2024-10

• Ford CEO Jim Farley says he's been driving the Chinese tech giant Xiaomi's EV for the past six months.
• Farley described Xiaomi as an "industry juggernaut."
• Farley previously told a board member that China's auto industry was an "existential threat."

Not sure what that has to do with the trade policies that started decades ago, just post WW2?

But at any event, ask yourself this. Why would a Ford CEO, which has an obligation to his company, shareholders and the board of directors admit publicly he’s driven a competitor’s vehicle and openly praising it?

He’s clearly trying to slime his way into the Chinese market. And you cannot do it without openly praising China.

 

[rijndael]

I don't think that's his motivation at all. I think it was an honest review of it.

Xiaomi's are pretty nice cars, have you ever been in one?

 

[KrisZ]

I don't think that's his motivation at all. I think it was an honest review of it.

Xiaomi's are pretty nice cars, have you ever been in one?

So a Ford CEO is a car reviewer as a side gig mow? Is this what you’re trying to tell me?
Has he “reviewed” any other vehicles by chance?

 

[rijndael]

I'll ask again, have you ever been in a Xiaomi?

 

[KrisZ]

I'll ask again, have you ever been in a Xiaomi?

What that has to do with the fact that Ford CEO all of the sudden decided to play a car reviewer and it happened to be a Chinese EV?
And you brought that up, not me.

 

[Snagglefoot]

Chinese spy?

 

[rijndael]

OK, so that's a "no". Got it.

Ford has a slim chance of trying to slime their way in to the Chinese market. They can't compete on either the tech or labor side.

 

[NibbanaBanana]

Recently it's been announced that Canada will be importing large amounts of Chinese EVs.
They are priced competitively with other "budget friendly" EV's.

There's a few problems with this idea, including;
1. Charging infrastructure in many rural parts of Canada are sorely lacking and decades away from maturity.
2. The vehicles haven't passed crash test or any other regulations from transport Canada
3. The "starting" price is in the low 30s. To me, given the rising costs of everything else, that's not much of a savings. Especially for something that can be troublesome to charge.
4. Reliability - As with many other EVs, they are still in their infancy. Many mainstream manufacturers are still having problems working out bugs (Hyundai, Volvo, Chrysler etc.)

What I propose, is we do what we did in N. America in the early 80s:
Import cheap, smaller ICE Euro cars from Peugeot, Renault, Lada etc. Similar in size to a Focus/Fiesta/Sonic/Fit.
It's not a permanent fix, but something to at least get us through until the "big 3" can get their act together and start providing vehicles the majority of N. Americans can actually afford.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/top...-will-they-cost/ar-AA1UnHMm?ocid=BingNewsSerp

GM partnered with Suzuki back in the 1990's to sell the excellent Geo Metro. Cheap (around $8k), reliable, safe (5 star crash test), and super economical (50+mpg highway). How do I know? I bought 2. A 1996 and a 1997. Ran them to 186K and 187K until they rotted to death.

Discontinued due to low sales. People wanted their huge SUV's and 4 door pickup trucks.

 

[KrisZ]

OK, so that's a "no". Got it.

Ford has a slim chance of trying to slime their way in to the Chinese market. They can't compete on either the tech or labor side.

You seriously don’t see that he may seek some sort of collaboration or something?
Have you ever been a CEO?

 

[rijndael]

Ever been a CEO? No, but I've at least been for a ride in the SU7.

 

[MrkofXcellence]

Interesting thing is the Tesla China plant is setup to produce cars for the Canadian market. Ironic in so many ways.
On a related topic, GM has a no fix available recall on their 24-25 Buick Envisions. Main screen is unresponsive. TSB/Bulletin PIT6362. Since April 2025. Guess where they're made. Ding, ding...China.

They’re moving to Fairfax Kansas with next model…I wouldn’t hold my breath on a screen fix though.

 

[MrkofXcellence]

This was in yesterday’s WSJ - It should be unlocked “Hot Selling Chinese EVs Head to Global Reign”
https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/...f?st=actL1V&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

[Just a civilian pilot]

The US has subsidized EVs for years, calling out China for doing the same thing is frankly ignorant.

Bring them and hurry up, I'm tired of seeing my kindred Americans being fleeced by the current car makers.

Same with Canada.

 

[Leo99]

Letting in cheap Chinese junk is not capitalism. If you want capitalism, then start with companies that aren’t owned by the CCP. I’ll wait for a list of those.

The OP listed four reasons to not buy a Chinese EV in Canada: Difficulty charging away from home, safety, price, and reliability. My reply of let capitalism handle it was meant to allow the consumer decide if they were getting a suitable product for their money taking these four issues into consideration.

If they are "cheap Chinse junk" , they won't sell well and they will stop selling them.

 

[4wd]

So a Ford CEO is a car reviewer as a side gig mow? Is this what you’re trying to tell me?
Has he “reviewed” any other vehicles by chance?

does look a bit like Chris so maybe some in the bones

 

[KrisZ]

The OP listed four reasons to not buy a Chinese EV in Canada: Difficulty charging away from home, safety, price, and reliability. My reply of let capitalism handle it was meant to allow the consumer decide if they were getting a suitable product for their money taking these four issues into consideration.

If they are "cheap Chinse junk" , they won't sell well and they will stop selling them.

Not if there is a constant propaganda promoting and praising their vehicles, like was already demonstrated by Ford’s CEO.
Plus with CCP backing, they can sell these cars at a considerable loss for a long time until the buying public gets used to the new norm.

That’s how Walmart and now Amazon took over. Except CCP wants to destroy us. Why give an adversary a free entry?

 

[OVERKILL]

Already had a whole thread on this that got deep 6'd because people couldn't keep the politics out of it, I expect the same thing is going to happen to this one.