Chevy 427 4 speed Hi Compression - Oil Rec's?

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Hi, all.

Say, my brother has a Corvette with a 427 4 speed that doesn't get driven very much. It has a Comp Cams Magnum hydraulic flat tappet cam with moderate seat pressure but pretty fast ramps. If memory serves, it has 130 or 135 pounds on the seat. Remember, it's a BBC and that ain't that much. Still, many BBC's have cam problems - due in part to the 1.7:1 rocker ratio. No cam failure on this one... not yet. That's the oil topic here:

So it gets low mileage (less than 3000)/high months (6 mo?) OCI's with conventional oil.

Recognizing that ZDDP isn't the "do all"/"end all" answer to flat tappet wear (but isn't a totally bad one!), I'd like to be able to recommend a medium to high ZDDP conventional oil for this. I think he's using Wix filters right now and I'd encourage continuing this or Purolator Pure 1's - either one.

While we live in a cold climate here in Colorado, it would be correct to say that this car rarely (almost never) gets driven in cold weather. And, it's in a heated garage as you might have guessed.

So what oil? Does anyone know the ZDDP level of Rotella 15w40? Brands and weights would be appreciated - especially if you know the ZDDP level.

Anyway, it's a fairly fast car. Like - suck the air outta' your lungs. Well, that may be exaggeration at 6000 feet of elevation (Colo Spgs is where he lives), but it gets on down the road fast enough to shut up most people for a good long while. Roughly the 5th fastest car I've been in, but then I'm an ex bracket racer and know that nitrous ain't just for dental fillings! As typical, the 'Vette seems faster as a passenger, no doubt.

Well, thanks in advance.


Larry S.
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Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I think Rotella or any HDEO for that matter would be a good choice. Could also see if you could find Valvoline VR1.


Hey, Colt.

Thanks for the info. I hear some HDEO's including VR1 have pretty low ZDDP... true or not?

Thanks,

Larry S.

FWIW - I'm a CCW holder and carry a very old ParaOrdinance 45 converted to 45 super...
 
I read somewhere ages ago (Smokey I think) that some of the lifter bores and cam lobes weren't in alignment and the lifters didn't bed in and rotate properly, and that in some cases no oil would really do the job.

Holden V-8s had similar issues.

Some of those blocks just eat cams, and others never.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
I read somewhere ages ago (Smokey I think) that some of the lifter bores and cam lobes weren't in alignment and the lifters didn't bed in and rotate properly, and that in some cases no oil would really do the job.

Holden V-8s had similar issues.

Some of those blocks just eat cams, and others never.


Yep, we heard that too. Especially with FE Fords and some other odd ducks...

Still looking for the best oil recommendations... Let's include synth's, too!

Thanks,

Larry S.
 
Yeah, BBCs in the Yunick article.

(I just drifted onto the local product, as it seems Holden had some cam eating blocks too)

Had a 253 Holden that ate it's second cam on Mobil 1 15W-50 at less than 200k kms.
 
3:40 a.m. here.

Sold a 32 Roadster with a zz383 engine to a guy in Victoria, Australia in 2008. Very fast car. Cool car. I miss it.

LS
 
Originally Posted By: KW
My picks are Rotella T 15W40 for your BBC and Rotella T 5W40 for a synthetic oil.


KW,

Thank you for your input. Do you by any chance know the ZDDP of either of these?

Thanks,

Larry S.
 
Originally Posted By: Rob_Roy
Most of the used oil analysis on Rotella show ~1200 PPM of ZDDP.


RR,

Thank you for the info. That's a good level for this car IMHO.

LS
 
My last 427 (390 horse, also in a Vette), running under the same Colorado conditions, I ran 5W-40 Mobil Synthetic in it much of the time. I probably only drove it 2000 miles a year though, also in the warm weather. Used the usual quart every 1000-1200 miles. Didn't seem to matter what oil I used in it, the consumption was about the same. Never had any cam issues.
 
Originally Posted By: c502cid
My last 427 (390 horse, also in a Vette), running under the same Colorado conditions, I ran 5W-40 Mobil Synthetic in it much of the time. I probably only drove it 2000 miles a year though, also in the warm weather. Used the usual quart every 1000-1200 miles. Didn't seem to matter what oil I used in it, the consumption was about the same. Never had any cam issues.


c502cid,

Thank you for the valuable info. That's a good synthetic, there IMO.

LS
 
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
...Could also see if you could find Valvoline VR1.

Just based upon the limited miles the Vette sees per year, I would recommend using some type of racing oil. 10w30 Valvoline VR-1 synthetic would be my choice for a high performance 427. You get the advantages of a synthetic (i.e., better cling, cold start performance, heat resistance, and reduced friction) coupled with the high zinc/phosphorous and low detergent levels of a racing oil. I would change the oil and filter once a year just before winter storage.

Have fun! Spring time is coming to the Rockies.
 
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