CHANGING AIR FILTERS

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How does one know when to change filter elements? Can you rely on visual inspection? It would seem that strictly following mileage may not be reliable, considering differing driving (dust) conditions?
 
A visual inspection with a mileage limit is probably the most accurate method you can do at home.

-T
 
How much vacuum is there ahead of the throttle body? Enough to get a real vacuum reading on a gage? Atmosphere is about 15 PSI. If say you had 2 PSI with a new filter, pitch it when it got up to 3?

If the vacuum was less, it would be more accurate to drill a slightly undersize hole in the plastic duct work near the top, and force a length of small diameter clear tubing into it. Keeping it way from heat and mechanical hazards, let it loop down to near the bottom and back up. Fill it half full with coolant, easier to see and won't freeze. With the engine idling, mark where it stands. Juice the throttle and let off and see what happens. I guess if all the coolant is sucked out, you may have decarbonized the engine even if it didn't need it. Maybe start with pure water until you see if it is going to be sucked into the engine.

If the upper level of water stands 2' above the lower, that would be about 1 PSI. Keep an eye on the levels. If the difference goes up much, the air filter is becoming more restrictive. If it goes down, check for leaks. You might get a more meaningful reading at a higher airflow.

This is just an idea I am throwing out. Maybe it is an idea that well deserves to be thrown out permanently.
 
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A visual inspection with a mileage limit is probably the most accurate method you can do at home.

Would someone really be able to guage filter restriction visually?

If someone handed you a filter and didn't tell you how many miles were on it, could you decide if it needed to be changed based on how it looked?

I sure couldn't...if I went by looks I'd be changing the thing out at either 12,000 or 120,000 miles.

Based on people's experience on here, the "30,000 mile" interval is conservative for all but really dusty conditions.
 
For a few purposes, the oem recommendation is pretty accurate. However the most accurate is the oil analysis test; in that whatever (silicon) is not being trapped by the air filter does wind up in the oil!

There are also a few ways to triangulate the information available to you, short of a more costly oil analysis. One easy way is to take a white cloth and wipe down your air intake path on the "filtered" side. There should be little to no dirt.

The other controversy is that very new or clean filters do not filter quite as well as a filter that has a certain amount of dust build up, dust build up on a new filter is supposed to form a better barrier for cleaner filtering. So in fact if you change filters too often you may in fact for the time it takes for you to build up this certain amount of film, might be letting in more dust than you would think.
 
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Originally posted by Matt89:

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A visual inspection with a mileage limit is probably the most accurate method you can do at home.

Would someone really be able to guage filter restriction visually?

If someone handed you a filter and didn't tell you how many miles were on it, could you decide if it needed to be changed based on how it looked?

I sure couldn't...if I went by looks I'd be changing the thing out at either 12,000 or 120,000 miles.

Based on people's experience on here, the "30,000 mile" interval is conservative for all but really dusty conditions.


Yes I could. Most dirt shows up pretty well on a white filter, and if not, the mileage limit would come into effect. Keep an eye on the filter and change it when it looks clogged, change it. If it makes it to the manufacturers recommendation change it then.

I know my Grand Am's filter looks black and a noticeable difference is felt after only 10,000 miles. There's no way 30,000 will work for everyone, or even most people.

-T

[ September 23, 2004, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: T-Keith ]
 
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Originally posted by thiggy:
How does one know when to change filter elements? Can you rely on visual inspection? It would seem that strictly following mileage may not be reliable, considering differing driving (dust) conditions?

Realizing that everybody does it diferent, I have a rule that every third oil change (3K OCI), I put in a new air filter.

Bob W.
 
or you could be like the kid who stated (on another forum somewhere) that you should change it every 5k miles...

when I asked where he read that, he said (quite seriously).."It was on the air filter display.."
 
My paper filters dont even become visually dirty until around 15k miles. In results, i usually run the air filters around 30k-50k miles. Even after that long interval, they still look pretty new.

I live in a very good air quality environment though, the Hudson Valley in southern New York State.

I am sure in an agricultural or Industrial area, 10-12k intervals are a must.
 
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